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Permanent Daylight Saving Time? Florida Says Yes, but It’s Not So Simple

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Re: Permanent Daylight Saving Time? Florida Says Yes, but It’s Not So Simple

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Post by mkempe »

RhodesianHunter wrote: post #3
taeric wrote: post #2

I'm torn on this. Yes, having a shift of a full hour in a week is obnoxious. However, the natural sun up and sun down time changes so dramatically in its own, that it is hard to really complain about it. If anything, I could see society moving to a time more based on when the sun comes up. Yes, there are difficulties scheduling something with someone across distance on the earth. But... I don't see a practical soluti…

Why not just have the hour shift slowly a few seconds per day over the course of the year?

We now have the technology to accurately, and simply, keep solar time wherever we are, instead of using and manipulating archaic time zones.

Edit: The original, 19th-century impetus for time zones (vs solar time) was to reliably print and manage train schedules across longer East-West railroads. With powerful computers and satellite positioning cheaply available to everybody, we could overcome this now-obsolete hack.

Re: Permanent Daylight Saving Time? Florida Says Yes, but It’s Not So Simple

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Post by bena »

cheald wrote: post #16
taeric wrote: post #2

I'm torn on this. Yes, having a shift of a full hour in a week is obnoxious. However, the natural sun up and sun down time changes so dramatically in its own, that it is hard to really complain about it. If anything, I could see society moving to a time more based on when the sun comes up. Yes, there are difficulties scheduling something with someone across distance on the earth. But... I don't see a practical soluti…

Arizona doesn't observe DST and hasn't since 1968. It works great, and the rest of the country should follow suit, IMO. We're no longer a nation of farmers whose work depends on daylight.

It was never about the farmers.

It was always about saving fuel during wartime. Farmers dislike DST.

Re: Permanent Daylight Saving Time? Florida Says Yes, but It’s Not So Simple

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Post by shaki-dora »

space_fountain wrote: post #15
birdmanjeremy wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is such a terrible idea.

Why? Vary opening hours now the time. Makes sense to me.

Right now, you understand the basic meaning of different times no matter where you are: Noon means lunchtime, 8am is rather early, 10pm rather late etc. You can travel and this doesn't change. You can watch British movies and you'll understand the time references.

Switching to UTC changes all that. And, almost as important, it doesn't help in the least: you still need to think about your co-worker's geographic location when trying to find a time that's good for your phone call.

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Post by derekp7 »

rwmj wrote: post #33
Sargos wrote: post #4

I am fully in favor of this. I enjoy having more sunlight after work when I can actually go out and enjoy it.

I'm quite convinced my parents believe that there's more sunlight because we switch to summer time.

Well, there is. It has nothing to do with DST though.

Re: Permanent Daylight Saving Time? Florida Says Yes, but It’s Not So Simple

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Post by shaki-dora »

hypervis0r wrote: post #14
Sargos wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You just gave systems programmers panic attack with those words.

Can confirm, just got a slight arrhythmia just by reading that

You're in luck! Variable-time seconds are among the best cures for heart arrhythmias.

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Post by jnordwick »

nrclark wrote: post #18
bahmboo wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The dramatic shift is in northern locales but not so much in southern ones

Until you get far enough south.

The equator should be far enough south for anybody.

Re: Permanent Daylight Saving Time? Florida Says Yes, but It’s Not So Simple

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Post by trimbo »

birdmanjeremy wrote: post #12
bhauer wrote: post #10

Yes! Bravo to Florida. I don't care what timezone California wants to be in—PST or MST—as long as we stop the nonsense of changing between two timezones every year. This coming Sunday is another DST change, and with it will come countless small nuisances, immeasurable drowsiness and lost productivity, and a non-trivial number of injuries or worse. Just pick a timezone and stick with it!

PDT FOREVER!

As an early riser, PST forever!

I vote we do a half hour compromise.

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