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Keybase is now supported by the Stellar Development Foundation

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Re: Keybase is now supported by the Stellar Development Foundation

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Post by osteele »

StavrosK wrote: post #13
eropple wrote: post #8

Last time Keybase came up I made sure to post about how great using it is and that I am super-duper enthused about Keybase. I entreated 'malgorithms to let me give him money for Keybase. And I have recommended Keybase to a ton of people and a bunch of my clients, using it in a bunch of workflows. Now those people and those clients are going to have cryptocoin bullshit stuffed into a work tool? Thanks, Chris. You're d…

Why are you disappointed if Keybase includes a wallet or a way to send people Lumens? Can you not just not use it?

I read the GP, and some other comments, as equivalent to:

* Keybase's plans will create an unofficial security bounty that is paid (1) out of users' wallets (2) to actors who haven't agreed to responsible disclosure practices.

* My personal choice not to use this (presumably) upcoming feature will protect my financial assets from exposure to (1), but it won't protect my data and identity from exposure to (2).

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I myself am happy with Keybase, and looking forward to using it with crypto. I don't think it's irrational for someone with a different set of concerns to raise this, though.

Re: Keybase is now supported by the Stellar Development Foundation

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Post by ghostwreck »

koko775 wrote: post #59

Welp, time to uninstall. I like Keybase a lot, but there are zero ways in which I want my crypto to mix with my cryptocurrency.

Probably should have done some more research before you installed the first time. Keybase has been mixed with cryptocurrency since 2014 [1]

[1] https://keybase.io/docs/server_security/merkle_root_in_bitco...

Re: Keybase is now supported by the Stellar Development Foundation

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Post by bllguo »

bastawhiz wrote: post #29
pjc50 wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because cryptocurrency has a very high potential for propagating failures or legal risks. It's like being given a free piece of asbestos with your sandwich. It's also prone to reputational risks; basically everyone who hears about cryptocurrency almost immediately either loves it or hates it.

> It's like being given a free piece of asbestos with your sandwich. It seems less like you're being given a free piece of asbestos and more like you're being given tongs for holding some asbestos if you choose. Allowing one technology to work with another is different than marrying two technologies in an inseparable way.

you're implying that your revised analogy is better? If I order a sandwich I don't expect or want any tongs. To get them is suspicious.

Re: Keybase is now supported by the Stellar Development Foundation

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Post by oldgun »

eropple wrote: post #8

Last time Keybase came up I made sure to post about how great using it is and that I am super-duper enthused about Keybase. I entreated 'malgorithms to let me give him money for Keybase. And I have recommended Keybase to a ton of people and a bunch of my clients, using it in a bunch of workflows. Now those people and those clients are going to have cryptocoin bullshit stuffed into a work tool? Thanks, Chris. You're d…

Easy there.

Don't you think your prejudice against cryptocurrency is clouding your judgement here?

Keybase is an identity tool and it makes every sense for it to make a wallet. Also, you provided no reasons that being involved in cryptocurrency will undermine keybase's security. Do you think?

Re: Keybase is now supported by the Stellar Development Foundation

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Post by zbentley »

lallysingh wrote: post #74
eropple wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I understand what they are doing. Here's how normal people look at something like this. It's not "oh, but they're just facilitating ," it's "why is there cryptocoin crap in this thing we use for work?". Then it's "Ed, why is this thing you recommended and spoke so highly about doing this? Are they cryptomining on our computers now?". Then, even after an explanation, they're probably still suspicious and probably righ…

So FUD. You're complaining about FUD.

Otherwise known as "things that make ordinary consumers (ones without the time or desire to get deep knowledge about something) choose competing alternatives".

Re: Keybase is now supported by the Stellar Development Foundation

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Post by jsutton »

eropple wrote: post #8

Last time Keybase came up I made sure to post about how great using it is and that I am super-duper enthused about Keybase. I entreated 'malgorithms to let me give him money for Keybase. And I have recommended Keybase to a ton of people and a bunch of my clients, using it in a bunch of workflows. Now those people and those clients are going to have cryptocoin bullshit stuffed into a work tool? Thanks, Chris. You're d…

I don't see what the issue is of a development tool supporting blockchain development. Like it or not, this tech is here to stay, and blockchain devs need very similar tools.

Re: Keybase is now supported by the Stellar Development Foundation

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Post by jsutton »

typomatic wrote: post #69
StavrosK wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why are you disappointed if Keybase includes a wallet or a way to send people Lumens? Can you not just not use it?

If 1Pass added an optional bitcoin-browser miner, would that make you feel better about its security? What if it partnered up with BonziBuddy and pinged you during the installer? Just simple choices, they don't affect the security profile at all.

There's an obvious difference between putting mining software or other malware into product, versus adding support for a major blockchain platform.

Re: Keybase is now supported by the Stellar Development Foundation

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Post by JustAnotherPat »

panarky wrote: post #68
lalaland1125 wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is no such thing as "excess electricity". If that power wasn't being wasted on useless cryptocurrencies, then we could have used it for useful purposes, such as processing aluminum.

If a hydroelectric power station produces 30 TWh per year, but demand including aluminum smelters is only 20 TWh, then there's 10 TWh excess. This is use-it-or-lose-it. Should they just allow the river to flow and bypass the turbines?

No, they can store it in some Tesla batteries.
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