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Re: Poll: Should this site be visible to Yahoo, MSN crawlers?

#22
post #9

Why does it matter how many useless urls they visit? If you're trying to fix the "expired link" issue -- there are better ways to fix that. I think you should ban google too if you ban the others. The only disadvantage I can see is that people from here who want to find something they've seen on news.yc can't use google anymore.

> [...] can't use google anymore.

I think pg should just make a search link on top of the site pointing to

http://www.searchyc.com/

or

http://nycs.bigheadlabs.com/

Re: Poll: Should this site be visible to Yahoo, MSN crawlers?

#24
I can understand not caring how many people read the site, so long as the hacker community is well served. I guess I'm just not quite clear on the downside of growth outside of this community; more useless comments? Comment spam? I also wonder if blocking those Yahoo and MSN crawlers would make it harder for them to compete with Google, because I consider competition a good thing. Eventually, by allowing them access, they may continue to improve their search product.

Perhaps most importantly, I worry that blocking these crawlers might be seen as a political statement against Yahoo and MSN, one which they might take into account when considering the acquisition of a ycombinator funded startup.

-- Fred

Re: Poll: Should this site be visible to Yahoo, MSN crawlers?

#29
post #2

Rather than looking for ways to constrain growth, why not use this as an opportunity to invent a better social news site?

I think constraining growth IS the way he's trying to invent a better news site.

It's one way. Another way is to use a different algorithm.

Re: Poll: Should this site be visible to Yahoo, MSN crawlers?

#30
I use Yahoo search occasionally and have often been impressed at it finding exact material, with a precise search, that Google couldn't.

Separate from the local implications on News.YC, society benefits by having multiple competing search engines. Seceding from all search indexes but Google contributes to a monopoly/monoculture.

Can you just warn off the stupid crawlers from valueless URLs with some combination of robots.txt, META robots directives, and 'nofollow'? (I'm happy to help craft these signposts, with a description of the URLs to be spared.)

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