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Re: Coinbase Index Fund

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I had the same problems with re-balancing my own portfolio and ended up creating a trading bot that automatically diversifies my investment portfolio across the top 20 coins by market cap (10% capped). It is heavily inspired by the crypto20 whitepaper. For anyone that is interested, you can find the project here: www.hodlbot.io I'm about 1-2 weeks from the MVP launch. Only the top 20 coins by market cap fund will be…

> The bot requires users to have a Binance account ... (trade only, no withdrawal access) > Users will always own their own coins. To be fair, users do not actually own the coins if Binance owns the coins. Sounds like a cool bot though, and great looking site! I signed up for the private beta. Looking forward to the open source!

Blocknet is an awesome open source project you may want to look into. It's an interoperability protocol and one example use-case project they built on it is a trustless decentralized exchange that allows you to trade directly from your wallet.

Re: Coinbase Index Fund

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Mix it up with Vanguard and I ll move all my funds from Betterment to Coinbase.

It's comments like these that make me think retail investors should never have been allowed to be in charge of their own retirement money.

Re: Coinbase Index Fund

#204

I have attempted to duplicate this index fund manually by purchasing the top 25 cryptocurrencies (market-cap weighted) over the past year or so. I'll say that it was hardly worth the enormous work involved, and these index funds cannot come soon enough to non-accredited investors. In some cases it's not possible to do perfectly alone: NEO has a minimum unit of 1 coin, and so if you wanted it to not be overweighted, y…

Is simply buying the top 25 cryptocurrencies duplicating an index fund?

I didn't know an index fund was just a bundle of stocks.

Re: Coinbase Index Fund

#205

Kudos to Coinbase for launching this but a 2% fee and the fact that Coinbase is far from being trustworthy in my book I am going to wait for when/if a company like Vanguard starts such a fund.

Don't hold your breath. Vanguard tends to err on the side of protecting the interests of retail investors. Hence, they don't do FOREX trading either.

Re: Coinbase Index Fund

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Anyone reading this, please spend at least a few minutes considering an alternative investment approach: In my opinion, most HN readers are technical enough that if they read up on the top 10 coins they would find that quite a few of those coins have extremely unconvincing future prospects- I won't name names, but several of the top 10 coins are (in my estimation) based on EXTREMELY UNCONVINCING ideas.

Before jumping on an index fund, a person on HN should at least consider the possibility that they may be better off doing some homework and reading up on the top 10 coins and then only investing in those that have a convincing technological basis- Index funds are not always a sensible strategy for markets that are as new as the cryptocurrency market, since proper price discovery in asset markets is a slow process that requires time.

Re: Coinbase Index Fund

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Yeah, this is an index of 4 securities and is rebalanced annually. Coinbase is charging a 2% fee for what amounts to automating a max of 4 transactions a year. I get that people are excited about cryptocurrencies becoming available in more traditional investment vehicles, but this particular index fund seems almost completely unnecessary.

> Coinbase is charging a 2% fee for what amounts to automating a max of 4 transactions a year. I came up with some more they do for 2%/y: * Buy more coins when their fund expands * Secure the shit out of those private keys

Besides the fact that it should cost nothing like 2% of AUM / year, securing the private keys pays for itself when they claim every fork/spin-off coin that distributes based on bitcoin blockchain.

Re: Coinbase Index Fund

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I have attempted to duplicate this index fund manually by purchasing the top 25 cryptocurrencies (market-cap weighted) over the past year or so. I'll say that it was hardly worth the enormous work involved, and these index funds cannot come soon enough to non-accredited investors. In some cases it's not possible to do perfectly alone: NEO has a minimum unit of 1 coin, and so if you wanted it to not be overweighted, y…

If you want to buy this Coinbase index fund, just do this:

1. Log into Coinbase

2. Buy [BTC, ETH, BCC, LTC] with [62%, 27%, 7%, 4%] weights

3. Check back in one year and rebalance

That's it! As an added bonus, you just avoided 2% fees and can "redeem" anytime.

Re: Coinbase Index Fund

#209

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> The bot requires users to have a Binance account ... (trade only, no withdrawal access) > Users will always own their own coins. To be fair, users do not actually own the coins if Binance owns the coins. Sounds like a cool bot though, and great looking site! I signed up for the private beta. Looking forward to the open source!

Blocknet is an awesome open source project you may want to look into. It's an interoperability protocol and one example use-case project they built on it is a trustless decentralized exchange that allows you to trade directly from your wallet.

That's awesome. I definitely want to move to decentralized exchanges ASAP to minimize the trust required for these kinds of transactions.

Re: Coinbase Index Fund

#210

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I had the same problems with re-balancing my own portfolio and ended up creating a trading bot that automatically diversifies my investment portfolio across the top 20 coins by market cap (10% capped). It is heavily inspired by the crypto20 whitepaper. For anyone that is interested, you can find the project here: www.hodlbot.io I'm about 1-2 weeks from the MVP launch. Only the top 20 coins by market cap fund will be…

> The bot requires users to have a Binance account ... (trade only, no withdrawal access) > Users will always own their own coins. To be fair, users do not actually own the coins if Binance owns the coins. Sounds like a cool bot though, and great looking site! I signed up for the private beta. Looking forward to the open source!

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