"Available to US accredited investors." It seems a little ironic that any Joe Blow with a credit card can buy cryptocurrency, at presumably higher risk since he's managing the assets himself, but he can't invest in this fund.
This whole regulation is unneeded. You can bring your money to a casino and put it all on zero. Or buy a thousand lottery tickets. But investing in risky businesses needs to be walled off to the wealthy. What we really need is the real consequences for fraud / false financial claims.
Coinbase Index Fund
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Re: Coinbase Index Fund
#72Seems dishonest to not use a linear scale on this graph: https://am.coinbase.com/index Also, the minimum investment and management fee found here don't look too appealing: Minimum Investment: $10,000 2% annual management fee https://am.coinbase.com/#invest
why is it dishonest to not use a linear scale? When you're investing, you're generally looking for relative-yield-over-timescale, which is appropriately charted as logarithmic.
Using a log scale implies that the growth rate is dependent on scale.
Depending on your opinion of the market, choose whichever you wish
Re: Coinbase Index Fund
#73I have attempted to duplicate this index fund manually by purchasing the top 25 cryptocurrencies (market-cap weighted) over the past year or so. I'll say that it was hardly worth the enormous work involved, and these index funds cannot come soon enough to non-accredited investors. In some cases it's not possible to do perfectly alone: NEO has a minimum unit of 1 coin, and so if you wanted it to not be overweighted, y…
Re: Coinbase Index Fund
#74I have attempted to duplicate this index fund manually by purchasing the top 25 cryptocurrencies (market-cap weighted) over the past year or so. I'll say that it was hardly worth the enormous work involved, and these index funds cannot come soon enough to non-accredited investors. In some cases it's not possible to do perfectly alone: NEO has a minimum unit of 1 coin, and so if you wanted it to not be overweighted, y…
This thing is rebalanced only once a year. Would take 5 minutes to actually duplicate this fund since it's only 4 coins....
Re: Coinbase Index Fund
#75"Available to US accredited investors." It seems a little ironic that any Joe Blow with a credit card can buy cryptocurrency, at presumably higher risk since he's managing the assets himself, but he can't invest in this fund.
Yes. You can only buy this if you can show income over 200k USD for the past 2-3 years (or meet other criteria which are less common for people on HN). https://www.investopedia.com/terms/a/accreditedinvestor.asp
Re: Coinbase Index Fund
#76Earlier quoted context omitted.
unless you change your holdings into fiat thats not the case. You can rebalance with exchanging among your coins
This is a somewhat debated topic in cryptocurrency. IMO what you said is not the case. If gold and silver aren't treated "like kind", and facebook and google stocks aren't treated "like kind", why would bitcoin and ethereum be treated like kind? I'm not a tax professional, but I did consult with one, and they confirmed my hunch.
For the same reason that, say, transferring your wealth from an Irish bank account to a German bank account doesn’t trigger a capital-gains event in the US?
I.e., those other things you listed exist “within” the US financial system. Cryptocurrencies exist outside of it, similar to the way assets held in other countries do. If one of these countries had multiple active currencies (say, the GBP and the Euro in the UK), a US citizen telling their UK proxy-holder to start moving money from one into the other has nothing to do with US financial regulation, only UK financial regulation. It just so happens that moving money from one cryptocurrency to another has to do only with the financial regulation of the country known as “the Internet”—which has no capital-gains regulations.
(Of course, things are slightly different if the management company exists as a US corporation—in either case. Ask yourself what a US company offering GBP+Euro management would do in this case. The answer should be obvious.)
Re: Coinbase Index Fund
#77Re: Coinbase Index Fund
#78>* Coinbase Index Fund will invest in assets in proportion to their relative market capitalizations and rebalance annually on January 1st. This strategy will track Coinbase Index (Fixed Supply) - a modified version of Coinbase Index which is adjusted to remove the effect of supply increases, so that it can be tracked by investors. For more information, see Section 6 of the Methodology and Construction.
So if you invest in this, you're basically making a bet that 'the flippening' will not occur because you would lose bigly relative to the market if bitcoin tanked since they don't rebalance for a year (which is forever in crypto).
Re: Coinbase Index Fund
#79Like, a fundamental thing about market-cap weighted index funds is that they buy a fixed percentage of a security in the index, regardless of price. If the fund has 1/100k of the market cap of all the coins listed on Coinbase, you can buy 1/100k of any coin and offload it at whatever price you can manipulate it to at the date it enters the index.
Re: Coinbase Index Fund
#80* Bitcoin 62%
* Ethereum 27%
* Bitcoin Cash 7%
* Litecoin 4%
So don't expect any of the more obscure cryptocurrencies.