Operation Serenata de Amor – An AI project to analyze public spending in Brazil

Post by tomc1985 » Tue, Mar 06, 2018, 10:33 PM UTC

lbrito wrote: post #54

TremendousJudge wrote: post #47

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Brazil is much, much worse off than the US. There the corruption goes all the way to the lowest levels of government. In the US local politicians don't pay a couple of bucks to a thousand dirt poor voters to vote in the county elections so they can win. In Brazil this happens everywhere.

Untrue. I've lived in Arizona for a year; have you heard of sheriff Joe Arpaio? http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/criminal-enterprise-a-cu... One could say the US is just as corrupt, or more, than Brazil.

Post by oh_sigh » Tue, Mar 06, 2018, 10:37 PM UTC

getcrunk wrote: post #68

diego_moita wrote: post #41

Disclaimer: I am a former Brazilian. I am what in Brazil is called in pejorative terms "vira-lata" (stray dog), someone that fell out of love for his native country. Because a lot of people in this thread are patriotic Brazilians I anticipate a lot of downvotes. This project is nothing more than a sharper and better diagnosis of topical symptoms. Unfortunately, the underlying disease remains without treatment. And if…

Most voters in most countries are stupid. See the 2016 US election

Post by lopmotr » Tue, Mar 06, 2018, 11:01 PM UTC

onetimemanytime wrote: post #44

diego_moita wrote: post #41

Disclaimer: I am a former Brazilian. I am what in Brazil is called in pejorative terms "vira-lata" (stray dog), someone that fell out of love for his native country. Because a lot of people in this thread are patriotic Brazilians I anticipate a lot of downvotes. This project is nothing more than a sharper and better diagnosis of topical symptoms. Unfortunately, the underlying disease remains without treatment. And if…

>>Like in most of the 3rd world ...voters don't understand how corruption, nepotism, patronage and incompetence affects them. All the above in US is called "lobbying" and it's legal, so you really can't jail anyone for it. USA voters don't do much better, don't worry. We just have a printing machine that churns out new dollars at record pace so we face no debt deadlines.

Post by tytytytytytytyt » Tue, Mar 06, 2018, 11:31 PM UTC

kuresto wrote: post #17

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How is this project perceived by the government officials? I am sure (or at least hope) that some of them are very much in favour, but are there others calling into question the accuracy / legitimacy of these type of analyses?

(Brazilian here with bad english) There isn't much interest yet. But that is expected. Information flows somewhat like this here: First they ignore it hard, then media comes and make a fuss and that makes the gov. officials respond with disdain or support (depends on the strategy they adopt). But if it gets hotter something bigger magically happens to distract public opinion. At least it is already on dados.gov.br, w…

Post by random42_ » Wed, Mar 07, 2018, 2:15 AM UTC

triangleman wrote: post #90

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Like the others already explained, "vira-latas" is a portuguese term for a stray dog and the idea that they need to flip trash cans to try to find food. However, there is also an expression (whose origin was also explained) that means "Mongrel complex (Complexo de vira-Lata in Portuguese), which is an expression used to refer to a collective inferiority complex felt by some Brazilian people in comparison to Europe or…

Interesting concept, the "reverse Narcissus", especially in this case. Because you see, in the same breath as they complain about their country, Brazilians will tell you that "God is a Brazilian". Perhaps jingoism and mongrelism are two sides of the same coin. It would certainly explain how Trump got elected after a campaign based on complaining about his own country.