Unlike most sites, I'm looking for ways to constrain our growth. News.YC is deliberately not intended to become a massively popular site. So the thought occurred to me: why not just ban Yahoo crawlers? And MSN too, while we're at it. I don't know anyone who uses either of them for search. I'd just as soon have the site be invisible to them. But what does the community think? Do any hackers use Yahoo or MSN search?
Poll: Should this site be visible to Yahoo, MSN crawlers?
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A large fraction of our http requests come from Yahoo crawlers--
almost 20% yesterday. Their crawler seems significantly stupider
than Google's. Yesterday we got 12,423 requests from the Google
crawler, of which 4148 were for x (= mostly useless) urls, and
43,087 requests from Yahoo crawlers, of which 30,652 were for x
urls.
Re: Poll: Should this site be visible to Yahoo, MSN crawlers?
#2Rather than looking for ways to constrain growth, why not use this as an opportunity to invent a better social news site?
Re: Poll: Should this site be visible to Yahoo, MSN crawlers?
#3maybe one way of constraining would be to limit access say by invitation only or some other method.
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#4I found reddit in mid-2006 when I was searching for widgets (or whatever they were called) for "My Yahoo" page. Without that I probably would have never foundit. So, I am very thankful that it was listed in the top 10 or 20 of their widgets (which is different from being in their search results, I know).
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#5My vote is to constrain growth as much as possible, at least that which comes from stupid sources. Smart hackers will find this site just fine without Yahoo or MSN, probably even Google.
As "evil" as blocking sites and crawlers may sound, I think these types of measures will be necessary to preserve the quality of content here. Whatever actions further that objective have my vote.
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#6I don't use Yahoo or MSN search.
I forget how I found out about this site, I believe it was via a mention on another topic-oriented discussion site.
If the goal is to limit growth, I would recommend that News.YC NOT be easy to find, as well as continue to NOT be SEO friendly (ie: nofollows on links, etc.).
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#7Block 'em.
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#8why not block all search engines?
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#9Why does it matter how many useless urls they visit? If you're trying to fix the "expired link" issue -- there are better ways to fix that.
I think you should ban google too if you ban the others. The only disadvantage I can see is that people from here who want to find something they've seen on news.yc can't use google anymore.
Re: Poll: Should this site be visible to Yahoo, MSN crawlers?
#10I tend to use Yahoo search instead of Google, but I guess I'll just use searchYC or something to search YC.