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Re: Stigler Diet

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FWIW, when adjusted for inflation, $39.93 (the total annual cost of Stigler's 1939 diet) is approximately equivalent to $712 in 2018 US dollars(1). Still a paltry sum, though, for a year's worth of food for most people in the US, I think. 1. http://www.usinflationcalculator.com/

I'm not sure that food is so cheap anymore.

Re: Stigler Diet

#32
Huh, I did a similar thing a few years ago with much fewer ingredients to come up with a low budget diet (I also used multivitamins to fill in the gaps). I just threw a simple evolutionary approach at the problem, because modern computers reward laziness.

Re: Stigler Diet

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post #4

Bookmarking this for later use. I've always wanted to find a recipe somewhere between Soylent and Lembas Bread that can be used for long hiking or canoe trips. Unfortunately the beans and cabbage hardly sound appetizing for a bread. The obvious ideas are wheat, nuts, and dried fruits. Any good resources for this?

You could try fermenting the cabbage to get a lot more flavor.

Re: Stigler Diet

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post #19

> a moderately active man weighing 154 pounds > 3,000 Calories It's really striking how much heavier and how much less active Americans have become.

This bit stuck out to me too:

  I called my doctor and asked him how come the nutritional requirements didn't
  show a limit on the amount of salt? "Isn't too much salt dangerous?" He
  replied that it wasn't necessary; most people had enough sense not to consume
  too much.

Re: Stigler Diet

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post #4

Bookmarking this for later use. I've always wanted to find a recipe somewhere between Soylent and Lembas Bread that can be used for long hiking or canoe trips. Unfortunately the beans and cabbage hardly sound appetizing for a bread. The obvious ideas are wheat, nuts, and dried fruits. Any good resources for this?

There's a difference between food good for survival and food that is good for you. You can buy modern high calorie food bars that will last ten years and contain 3000 cals in a tiny package, but they're mostly carbs. Again, great for survival but not something to live off of while on a fun trip in the backcountry. I usually pack precooked meats (frozen if needed), dried meats, firm biscuits or crackers, and some nuts…

> If you have conveyance (a canoe or kayak, an atv, etc) then you can afford to bring much less dense (and usually better tasting) food.

Can confirm, many years ago went on a canoe trip on the Shenandoah for a week and we brought about 400lbs total food and equipment per 2 man canoe. We ate like kings, and mine and my boat-mate's canoe was the only one that didn't capsize on the trip (everyone had fully waterproof bags, so no one lost anything, it was just a matter of pride).

Re: Stigler Diet

#36

FWIW, when adjusted for inflation, $39.93 (the total annual cost of Stigler's 1939 diet) is approximately equivalent to $712 in 2018 US dollars(1). Still a paltry sum, though, for a year's worth of food for most people in the US, I think. 1. http://www.usinflationcalculator.com/

How much would the items actually cost at today's prices, though?

Edit: Okay, I figured it myself. Around $1850 Canadian, where I live. Still works out to $153 per month, which is almost exactly what I was spending on food during my frugal student days, about 3 years ago. I ate better than the pretty boring diet described here (though not by much) and I'm also quite a bit smaller than the human described in the question. Still, it's good to know that I couldn't have done much better than I did.

Numbers and assumptions: https://imgur.com/a/udCL3

Re: Stigler Diet

#37
As I started preparing home-made kefir, I realized that full-fat milk has a balanced protein-fat content, and is rich in some other nutrients. Fermentation to kefir reduces the lactose content while increasing some of the good things (vitamins, amino-acids).

In my calculations, about 3L of kefir per day should satisfy the energy and protein needs of an adult; for under $3/day.

If that'd work, it would be the first complete diet made from only one ingredient!

Re: Stigler Diet

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post #36

FWIW, when adjusted for inflation, $39.93 (the total annual cost of Stigler's 1939 diet) is approximately equivalent to $712 in 2018 US dollars(1). Still a paltry sum, though, for a year's worth of food for most people in the US, I think. 1. http://www.usinflationcalculator.com/

How much would the items actually cost at today's prices, though? Edit: Okay, I figured it myself. Around $1850 Canadian, where I live. Still works out to $153 per month, which is almost exactly what I was spending on food during my frugal student days, about 3 years ago. I ate better than the pretty boring diet described here (though not by much) and I'm also quite a bit smaller than the human described in the quest…

Aren't the inflation adjustments entirely based on the cost of common goods like flour?

Re: Stigler Diet

#39
post #27

Here's a story of a guy who used the same method to come up with the optimal diet for himself: https://www.gwern.net/docs/statistics/decision/1990-dantzig.... The first try he ended up with a diet that required 500 gallons of vinegar a day. There was a mistake in the data that give vinegar 0 weight. The second try ended up with 200 bouillon cubes per day. He didn't put a limit on salt content. Then it gave him 2 poun…

And for those who don't know anything else about George Dantzig, the author of that article: There's an urban legend about a college student who shows up late for a math class, sees some problems written on the board, assumes they're homework, and solves them over the weekend, but it turns out the professor wrote the problems on the board as examples of open problems in the field. This urban legend is true, and Georg…

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Re: Stigler Diet

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post #6

FWIW, when adjusted for inflation, $39.93 (the total annual cost of Stigler's 1939 diet) is approximately equivalent to $712 in 2018 US dollars(1). Still a paltry sum, though, for a year's worth of food for most people in the US, I think. 1. http://www.usinflationcalculator.com/

(the irony of avoiding my own noprocrast settings)... For a university course, I managed roughly 600$ a year (local prices) with a (few-constraints-)diet of peanut butter and rice sandwiches. Even lower price for directly consuming spoonfuls of flour. Thus the added commentary: - you manage what you measure (linear programming is really powerful, but also simplistic for this model) - the human body is great at surviv…

Haha, the Stigler diet leaves out a couple of important items. Salt and yeast turn flour into bread, which is damn tasty. They're cheap, but not free, and should have been accounted for.
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