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Re: Email overload? Try Priority Inbox

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I have absolutely no desire to give anyone else access to my email, and I'd hazard a guess that this is the case for many other users as well. I do want the ability to send mail as another person (I have some 10-odd email accounts), but Gmail already handles that. While this new feature may not be useful for corporate users, that doesn't mean it's not useful for users in general.

I have absolutely no desire to send mail as another person, and I'd hazard a guess that this is the case for many other users as well. I do want the ability so share mail folders with other people, and GMail doesn't handle that. While this new feature may be useful for some users, that doesn't mean it's useful for users in general.

What fraction of users actually want folder sharing?

I've personally been using email since 1992, and I've never once used such a feature, nor has anyone asked me to use it. This is despite my having worked on a fair number of very productive teams.

Now I don't know how you personally use it. But I'm fairly sure that if I looked at your desired workflow using it, I could find another that was equally effective that didn't use it. Better yet, my alternative would be much more convenient for any software developers who don't happen to be working in a Windows environment.

Re: Email overload? Try Priority Inbox

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This is a BRILLIANT feature that I hope stimulates somebody on HN to build around Outlook. GMAIL hovers around 5% of email client usage. Outlook still owns somewhere between 35 - 43%. MSFT was moving in this direction and had a decent solution out a few years back called Email Prioritizer. Of course, they tossed before it made it out of labs. Xobni is too complex IMO, what's so compelling about Google's system is how…

Xobni doesn't claim to solve the mailbox triage problem. That's a really hard problem.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=xobni+...

Re: Email overload? Try Priority Inbox

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post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have absolutely no desire to send mail as another person, and I'd hazard a guess that this is the case for many other users as well. I do want the ability so share mail folders with other people, and GMail doesn't handle that. While this new feature may be useful for some users, that doesn't mean it's useful for users in general.

What fraction of users actually want folder sharing? I've personally been using email since 1992, and I've never once used such a feature, nor has anyone asked me to use it. This is despite my having worked on a fair number of very productive teams. Now I don't know how you personally use it. But I'm fairly sure that if I looked at your desired workflow using it, I could find another that was equally effective that d…

> "What fraction of users actually want folder sharing?"

How on Earth would I know that?

We use folder sharing extensively at the University I work at. We have a folder structure which is shared by all staff which we call the Archive. People move email into the Archive which is owned by their role and which needs to be kept and shared with others. So you've never used folder sharing? I can show you several thousand people who have...

The ACL extension for IMAP looks as though it came out about 13 years ago!

> "Now I don't know how you personally use it. But I'm fairly sure that if I looked at your desired workflow using it, I could find another that was equally effective that didn't use it."

You know you could find a better workflow than the one I'm using, even though you don't know what I'm doing? magic.

> "Better yet, my alternative would be much more convenient for any software developers who don't happen to be working in a Windows environment."

The above makes no sense whatsoever and proves you completely missed the point. This isn't a Windows feature. I'm using it from Thunderbird on an OSX box right now, connecting to Dovecot IMAP server on a Linux box. Courier IMAP also supports it, as does Exchange and CommuniGate Pro, Cyrus and most open source webmail applications and email clients...

GMail doesn't support the IMAP ACL extension, nor does the webmail interface support any sort of sharing. That is a severe limitation.

Re: Email overload? Try Priority Inbox

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post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Xobni doesn't claim to solve the mailbox triage problem. That's a really hard problem.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=xobni+...

That's almost a direct quote from Adam Smith's mouth from a talk he gave at MIT startup bootcamp. I don't have the link to the video at hand, but I distinctly remember him saying, with a pause for emphasis, "Xobni does not solve the email triage problem."

I understand you worked at Xobni, so I cede that you probably know more than I do. Either way, that was the message he was trying to send.

Re: Email overload? Try Priority Inbox

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This is a BRILLIANT feature that I hope stimulates somebody on HN to build around Outlook. GMAIL hovers around 5% of email client usage. Outlook still owns somewhere between 35 - 43%. MSFT was moving in this direction and had a decent solution out a few years back called Email Prioritizer. Of course, they tossed before it made it out of labs. Xobni is too complex IMO, what's so compelling about Google's system is how…

Don't know if it still does it but ClearContext use to provide this exact solution for Outlook. It prioritized your Inbox based people and e-mails that you haven't responded to yet. http://www.clearcontext.com/user_guide/contacts.html The product seems to have chased off into GTD-land, but the sort of the Inbox was really useful.

Hi, I'm the CEO of ClearContext. We have focused the last couple of years on including this type of functionality as part of our project management product, but we plan to release a simple free product for Outlook users focused just on identifying your most important messages. We'll start beta-testing that product this month.
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