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Re: How Airlines don’t care about privacy: Case Study Emirates.com

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Sounds like KLM: https://www.klm.com/travel/us_en/prepare_for_travel/on_board... This is on a strictly opt-in basis. I guess it's an interesting alternative to Tinder if you're going to be stuck on a plane. (Disclaimer: I've never tried it myself)

Wouldn't there be an incentive to make yourself ... less pleasant looking in the hopes nobody sits next to you?

No! you'll just invite to spend 10hrs flight with a creep next to you :)

Re: How Airlines don’t care about privacy: Case Study Emirates.com

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I had a coworker who was flying to Morocco (I forget what airline). He called me over to his desk at some point to show me the screen as he was picking out his seat. By each occupied seat was a headshot of the passenger, pulled from what I assume was their Facebook profile. It was amazingly creepy.

Sounds like KLM: https://www.klm.com/travel/us_en/prepare_for_travel/on_board... This is on a strictly opt-in basis. I guess it's an interesting alternative to Tinder if you're going to be stuck on a plane. (Disclaimer: I've never tried it myself)

Apparently on Virgin Airlines there are chat rooms on the planes. Those have only two practical use cases: dating, and trolling: https://twitter.com/KrangTNelson/status/959907806622121984

Re: How Airlines don’t care about privacy: Case Study Emirates.com

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Yet another reason blocking ads is a must. But not just blocking ads, trackers as well. I use uMatrix and uBlock origin. Unfortunately this does nothing to deal with the aforementioned redirect chain. I suppose maybe this means it is time to go back to the telephone and flight agencies.

>> I suppose maybe this means it is time to go back to the telephone and flight agencies.

You would just end up paying more (directly or indirectly) while still having the representatives using the same problematic system, now from their end.

Re: How Airlines don’t care about privacy: Case Study Emirates.com

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From my experience the travel industry are the worst offenders of data security. I remember making booking on booking.com and not having to pay for my booking, and I wondered how hotels can confirm bookings, when I went to check in at the hotel I asked this question to the front desk staff, and they simply told me “oh we get a fax or email from the OTA of your credit card information”. You can imagine the look on my…

Why isn’t it the same when you hand them your credit card?

Your credit card number should not persist in their system when you hand it to them, and it definitely should not be printed on hard copy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Payment_Card_Industry_Data_Sec...

Re: How Airlines don’t care about privacy: Case Study Emirates.com

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From my experience the travel industry are the worst offenders of data security. I remember making booking on booking.com and not having to pay for my booking, and I wondered how hotels can confirm bookings, when I went to check in at the hotel I asked this question to the front desk staff, and they simply told me “oh we get a fax or email from the OTA of your credit card information”. You can imagine the look on my…

They have to support the lowest common denominator. I worked for a company that did camping reservations. Our system for remote sites involved a ranger getting up at 4am, starting a generator and powering up a fax machine. That was seen as an improvement over travelling 40 miles to get a weekly, guaranteed useless list or the honor system and cash payments.

It's like anything else, companies don't lift a finger unless it costs them money or runs them afoul of regulators.

Re: How Airlines don’t care about privacy: Case Study Emirates.com

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sounds like KLM: https://www.klm.com/travel/us_en/prepare_for_travel/on_board... This is on a strictly opt-in basis. I guess it's an interesting alternative to Tinder if you're going to be stuck on a plane. (Disclaimer: I've never tried it myself)

Apparently on Virgin Airlines there are chat rooms on the planes. Those have only two practical use cases: dating, and trolling: https://twitter.com/KrangTNelson/status/959907806622121984

I suspect the primary use case is talking to fellow passengers with whom you already have a relationship. But maybe not. I've never used it.

Re: How Airlines don’t care about privacy: Case Study Emirates.com

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sounds like KLM: https://www.klm.com/travel/us_en/prepare_for_travel/on_board... This is on a strictly opt-in basis. I guess it's an interesting alternative to Tinder if you're going to be stuck on a plane. (Disclaimer: I've never tried it myself)

Apparently on Virgin Airlines there are chat rooms on the planes. Those have only two practical use cases: dating, and trolling: https://twitter.com/KrangTNelson/status/959907806622121984

This has been around for years. Besides messaging, there was a plane-wide chat. Pretty fun to ask people how first class is :)

Re: How Airlines don’t care about privacy: Case Study Emirates.com

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From my experience the travel industry are the worst offenders of data security. I remember making booking on booking.com and not having to pay for my booking, and I wondered how hotels can confirm bookings, when I went to check in at the hotel I asked this question to the front desk staff, and they simply told me “oh we get a fax or email from the OTA of your credit card information”. You can imagine the look on my…

I wish I had the level of audacity or ignorance these people have and send plaintext user data over http, write half-assed webapps that just look pretty but offer no security etc etc. I would be in a much better place right now from a professional point of view. But I just can't do it.

Re: How Airlines don’t care about privacy: Case Study Emirates.com

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This should not be a surpise. Most business types don't give a shit about anything but money. Community, social, environment, or any other negative externaliaities. They just don't care. They're after and bound to "feduciary" responsiblity. (Short term reward and ignoring long term consequences)

I realize that was a moral high horse: I'm curious about how you can reward people for positive long term growth.

Re: How Airlines don’t care about privacy: Case Study Emirates.com

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sounds like KLM: https://www.klm.com/travel/us_en/prepare_for_travel/on_board... This is on a strictly opt-in basis. I guess it's an interesting alternative to Tinder if you're going to be stuck on a plane. (Disclaimer: I've never tried it myself)

Apparently on Virgin Airlines there are chat rooms on the planes. Those have only two practical use cases: dating, and trolling: https://twitter.com/KrangTNelson/status/959907806622121984

I saw a similar feature at least ten years ago elsewhere. I'm not sure of the airline but it might have been Air France. It was more basic - think SMS - and you could do voice calls as well. I figured it was meant for people who were traveling together but who were not sitting together.
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