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Re: How bathroom posture affects your health.

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I was told once that in China, people squat a lot more than in the West. Both for toilet use, but also just for "sitting down" somewhere. Example: I was told that upon seeing a bench, whereas westerners would normally sit on it, a Chinese person will squat on it. This supposedly also makes their legs much stronger. Can anyone confirm this?

This is the stereotypical Asian squat. Interestingly, young children do it by default. I think we lose flexibility as we age. I can't squat back on my heels without straining my shin muscles to keep from falling backwards, but the more I do it, the easier it becomes.

It is certainly a lot healthier for your knees than squatting on the balls of your feet, if only because your knees stay roughly on the same vertical as your toes. This is old powerlifter wisdom, and anyone with a knee injury can tell you first-hand. I can't squat on the balls of my feet without my right knee squealing in pain. Squatting on my heels is, at least, tolerable.

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post #19

I was told once that in China, people squat a lot more than in the West. Both for toilet use, but also just for "sitting down" somewhere. Example: I was told that upon seeing a bench, whereas westerners would normally sit on it, a Chinese person will squat on it. This supposedly also makes their legs much stronger. Can anyone confirm this?

It's true. Especially in the northwest China.

But things seem to change a little bit. The white collars think it looks strange. They would rather stand than squat.

Thanks for the post. I don't feel ashamed when waiting for a bus with squat now.

Re: How bathroom posture affects your health.

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post #19

I was told once that in China, people squat a lot more than in the West. Both for toilet use, but also just for "sitting down" somewhere. Example: I was told that upon seeing a bench, whereas westerners would normally sit on it, a Chinese person will squat on it. This supposedly also makes their legs much stronger. Can anyone confirm this?

This is the stereotypical Asian squat. Interestingly, young children do it by default. I think we lose flexibility as we age. I can't squat back on my heels without straining my shin muscles to keep from falling backwards, but the more I do it, the easier it becomes. It is certainly a lot healthier for your knees than squatting on the balls of your feet, if only because your knees stay roughly on the same vertical as…

Yep! I was about to post that I learned this from my toddler... and trying to squat (western style) next to him to play.

Re: How bathroom posture affects your health.

#44

Squat toilets are also more sanitary. I'd much prefer public toilets in the US be of the squat variety.

I would say that except one or two, all the other public squat toilets which I've seen were horrible. Though I agree that they're more sanitary because your butt doesn't touch them.

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Re: How bathroom posture affects your health.

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Let's just say that this squatting thing really does have all the benefits that the article says it does. Does is occur to anyone else that instead of squatting precariously on a sit toilet, risking a fall and backsplash on the feet, one could simply put a stack of phonebooks or a kiddie stool in front of the toilet, and then put your feet on it while you take a dump? Same angle for the core/legs, but less danger.

One of the commentators on the original article suggested using a stool. It's a good idea, but what a choice of words!

Re: How bathroom posture affects your health.

#46
post #19

I was told once that in China, people squat a lot more than in the West. Both for toilet use, but also just for "sitting down" somewhere. Example: I was told that upon seeing a bench, whereas westerners would normally sit on it, a Chinese person will squat on it. This supposedly also makes their legs much stronger. Can anyone confirm this?

> I was told once that in China, people squat a lot more than in the West. Both for toilet use, but also just for "sitting down" somewhere.

In rural midwest US, the instead-of-sit squat is called a "hunker". Yes, folks talk about "hunkering" and will say "come over her and hunker with us for a while". "Hunker down" is different.

> I was told that upon seeing a bench, whereas westerners would normally sit on it, a Chinese person will squat on it.

I've never seen anyone hunker on a bench - they always hunkered on the ground.

Re: How bathroom posture affects your health.

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>sitting on toilets—a recent phenomenon, stemming from the invention of the flush toilet in 1591—might be unhealthy There's a Roman museum near here that has a model barracks toilet which is basically like a modern compost loo - it's like an enclosed bench with holes to defecate through. I guess you might be supposed to stand on it but it's certainly not presented that way. I've seen toilets in medieval château and c…

>Nor can I see how a flush toilet would need a change in posture. You're definitely correct. South East Asia (at the minimum) has millions of flushable porcelain squat toilets. :)

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Re: How bathroom posture affects your health.

#48
post #9

>sitting on toilets—a recent phenomenon, stemming from the invention of the flush toilet in 1591—might be unhealthy There's a Roman museum near here that has a model barracks toilet which is basically like a modern compost loo - it's like an enclosed bench with holes to defecate through. I guess you might be supposed to stand on it but it's certainly not presented that way. I've seen toilets in medieval château and c…

The ruins of Leptis Magna, Roman ruins dating from 1100 BCE–650 CE, features sit-down toilets.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/libyan_soup/650693182/

Re: How bathroom posture affects your health.

#49
"My 10-minute routine dropped to a minute ..."

Jesus, what the hell is wrong with this guy? Or maybe I'm the freak, but I don't spend ten minutes on the toilet. Usually it takes 30s-2m to do my business.

Maybe he should consider a change in diet?

Re: How bathroom posture affects your health.

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post #49

"My 10-minute routine dropped to a minute ..." Jesus, what the hell is wrong with this guy? Or maybe I'm the freak, but I don't spend ten minutes on the toilet. Usually it takes 30s-2m to do my business. Maybe he should consider a change in diet?

Yeah, it sounds like this guy has some kind of specific problem, which maybe squatting can relieve.

I looked him up, assuming he might be an old guy, but he appears to be early-to-mid 20s, meaning that spending ten minutes just to take a crap on a regular basis is not normal.

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