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Teacher in Ghana has no computers so he draws Microsoft Word on the blackboard

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Re: Teacher in Ghana has no computers so he draws Microsoft Word on the blackboard

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I live in Shenzhen. Hardware is cheap here. Why not spec out a cheap system and we can send them a few together from HN? Taobao parts... Screen @ 248RMB (USD$40) https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.42.21a554932... Raspberry Pi 3B + case + heatsink + power supply @ 250RMB (USD$40) https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.16.79304af9s... (set 3) Keyboard/mouse @ 20RMB (USD$3) https://item.taobao.com/…

how will they power it? the biggest problem is not cheap hardware but cheap/consistent power (both of which are problems - power is very expensive and very sparse and very unreliable).

So a small solar + battery system to go with.

Re: Teacher in Ghana has no computers so he draws Microsoft Word on the blackboard

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OK well if they've got power, assuming your prices, let's say a KwH is about what an hour class would use. So USD$0.17/class, one class per day, 20 classes per month, 20 * USD$0.17 = USD$3.4/month. The teacher won't be the one paying, the community will gather money if required. A small generator is USD$40 to buy here in China as I stated, not USD$300. You are making a mountain out of a molehill. (Edit in response to…

>The teacher won't be the one paying, the community will gather money if required. you are beyond clueless. any school that has a computer is a private school. public schools have zero money. there is no community doing fundraising - you're talking about people who absolutely literally live on >A small generator is USD$40 to buy here in China as I stated, not USD$300. how much do you think it costs to ship? how high…

What do you think of http://one.laptop.org/ ?

Re: Teacher in Ghana has no computers so he draws Microsoft Word on the blackboard

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how will they power it? the biggest problem is not cheap hardware but cheap/consistent power (both of which are problems - power is very expensive and very sparse and very unreliable).

So a small solar + battery system to go with.

a 40w solar panel plus battery plus charge controller is not cheap (nor small). i knew some people that put those together but all told they were about $500 with locally sourced parts.

Re: Teacher in Ghana has no computers so he draws Microsoft Word on the blackboard

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OK well if they've got power, assuming your prices, let's say a KwH is about what an hour class would use. So USD$0.17/class, one class per day, 20 classes per month, 20 * USD$0.17 = USD$3.4/month. The teacher won't be the one paying, the community will gather money if required. A small generator is USD$40 to buy here in China as I stated, not USD$300. You are making a mountain out of a molehill. (Edit in response to…

>The teacher won't be the one paying, the community will gather money if required. you are beyond clueless. any school that has a computer is a private school. public schools have zero money. there is no community doing fundraising - you're talking about people who absolutely literally live on >A small generator is USD$40 to buy here in China as I stated, not USD$300. how much do you think it costs to ship? how high…

I think you're confusing helping out this class with helping solving all of Africas problems.

Re: Teacher in Ghana has no computers so he draws Microsoft Word on the blackboard

#35

I live in Shenzhen. Hardware is cheap here. Why not spec out a cheap system and we can send them a few together from HN? Taobao parts... Screen @ 248RMB (USD$40) https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.42.21a554932... Raspberry Pi 3B + case + heatsink + power supply @ 250RMB (USD$40) https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.16.79304af9s... (set 3) Keyboard/mouse @ 20RMB (USD$3) https://item.taobao.com/…

Why not just send him $100?

Re: Teacher in Ghana has no computers so he draws Microsoft Word on the blackboard

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post #32

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>The teacher won't be the one paying, the community will gather money if required. you are beyond clueless. any school that has a computer is a private school. public schools have zero money. there is no community doing fundraising - you're talking about people who absolutely literally live on >A small generator is USD$40 to buy here in China as I stated, not USD$300. how much do you think it costs to ship? how high…

What do you think of http://one.laptop.org/ ?

africa doesn't need computers. it needs clean water, soap, anti-malarals, and nutritious food. cover those things and then worry about computers.

Re: Teacher in Ghana has no computers so he draws Microsoft Word on the blackboard

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>The teacher won't be the one paying, the community will gather money if required. you are beyond clueless. any school that has a computer is a private school. public schools have zero money. there is no community doing fundraising - you're talking about people who absolutely literally live on >A small generator is USD$40 to buy here in China as I stated, not USD$300. how much do you think it costs to ship? how high…

I think you're confusing helping out this class with helping solving all of Africas problems.

no i'm not. i'm just responding to the guy that thinks power isn't a problem and if it is then solving it is easy-peasy.

Re: Teacher in Ghana has no computers so he draws Microsoft Word on the blackboard

#38

I live in Shenzhen. Hardware is cheap here. Why not spec out a cheap system and we can send them a few together from HN? Taobao parts... Screen @ 248RMB (USD$40) https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.42.21a554932... Raspberry Pi 3B + case + heatsink + power supply @ 250RMB (USD$40) https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.16.79304af9s... (set 3) Keyboard/mouse @ 20RMB (USD$3) https://item.taobao.com/…

Don't forget 2-3X that for customs duties, bribes, man-hours running across town for paperwork, etc. And that assumes it arrives at the final destination unstolen.

In my travels through poorer countries (and their aduanas) I've noticed an almost overt hostility to importing the very tools that might allow productivity to increase. They seem to perceive computers as luxury goods when assigning duties. It's hard to imagine a public policy that is more self-defeating.

Re: Teacher in Ghana has no computers so he draws Microsoft Word on the blackboard

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post #35

I live in Shenzhen. Hardware is cheap here. Why not spec out a cheap system and we can send them a few together from HN? Taobao parts... Screen @ 248RMB (USD$40) https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.42.21a554932... Raspberry Pi 3B + case + heatsink + power supply @ 250RMB (USD$40) https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.16.79304af9s... (set 3) Keyboard/mouse @ 20RMB (USD$3) https://item.taobao.com/…

Why not just send him $100?

It's significantly cheaper to buy hardware in China.

Re: Teacher in Ghana has no computers so he draws Microsoft Word on the blackboard

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You may be right, but in the interview the teacher does not seem to share your concern: I've read in news reports that you've received an outpouring of help from foreigners who want to donate computers to your school. Is that actually happening? No, they are showing interest but nothing has been brought to the school. We are praying that they are able to organize themselves and present us with computers.

if i gave you a lambo with no gas in sight would you turn it down?

A Lamborghini would be pretty useless in most contexts, but if you gave someone a 1940s jeep they could definitely make use of it.
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