Previously: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16497551
And also this one, which was flagged to death: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16500834
Ex-Google recruiter: I was fired because I resisted “illegal” diversity efforts
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Re: Ex-Google recruiter: I was fired because I resisted “illegal” diversity efforts
#12> In April of 2017, Google’s Technology Staffing Management team was instructed by Alogna to immediately cancel all Level 3 (0-5 years experience) software engineering interviews with every single applicant who was not either female, Black, or Hispanic and to purge entirely any applications by non-diverse employees from the hiring pipeline. Plaintiff refused to comply with this request. Good for him. Google is now exc…
It sounds like it was one manager. Is that all you need to blacklist an entire company?
Well apparently the company stands behind the decision of its manager.
Re: Ex-Google recruiter: I was fired because I resisted “illegal” diversity efforts
#13If this is true and the recruiter has emails to back up his case it should be a pretty easy case to win. According to the the rules: Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 (Title VII), which makes it illegal to discriminate against a person on the basis of race, color, religion, sex, or national origin. It should also be a massive fine.
I have recently left tenure at a large telecoms company in the UK. They definitely had a practice of encouraging female hires. Even if they weren't the best fit for the role.
Don't get me wrong, I am not approaching this in a sexist way - on the contrary I have worked with excellent and poor colleagues of both sexes.
I think it diminishes the accomplishments of genuinely great minority/female employees to have this policy.
I would prefer identity to be neutralized somehow during the hiring process. The best person for the job, no matter your sex, colour, creed, disability.
Re: Ex-Google recruiter: I was fired because I resisted “illegal” diversity efforts
#14This happens in many companies. The response rate is much higher if you refuse to specify the corresponding details in the application.
Re: Ex-Google recruiter: I was fired because I resisted “illegal” diversity efforts
#15Earlier quoted context omitted.
It sounds like it was one manager. Is that all you need to blacklist an entire company?
To be fair, from the outside it is often hard to tell what is one manager and what is company culture.
For any organization this size, assume that there is a fair amount of variance from one division to another.
Re: Ex-Google recruiter: I was fired because I resisted “illegal” diversity efforts
#16Previously: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16497551
And also this one, which was flagged to death: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16500834
Yep. I posted a link in that one too, so, fingers crossed, the people interested in discussing this will be able to find one another.
Re: Ex-Google recruiter: I was fired because I resisted “illegal” diversity efforts
#17> In April of 2017, Google’s Technology Staffing Management team was instructed by Alogna to immediately cancel all Level 3 (0-5 years experience) software engineering interviews with every single applicant who was not either female, Black, or Hispanic and to purge entirely any applications by non-diverse employees from the hiring pipeline. Plaintiff refused to comply with this request. Good for him. Google is now exc…
Do you seriously think that Google is going to stop hiring white men?
What is claimed sounds like a completely crass method. Whether you like Google or not they typically do things in a fairly data driven method even with their hiring.
It is also blatant discrimination that as others claim would be fairly easy to prove in court. This would be stupid.
For Google to be both crass and stupid seems unlikely.
Re: Ex-Google recruiter: I was fired because I resisted “illegal” diversity efforts
#18> In April of 2017, Google’s Technology Staffing Management team was instructed by Alogna to immediately cancel all Level 3 (0-5 years experience) software engineering interviews with every single applicant who was not either female, Black, or Hispanic and to purge entirely any applications by non-diverse employees from the hiring pipeline.
If this were remotely true, we wouldn't see any white men hired in a junior level at the moment. Yet every year you see hundreds hired at that level.
Re: Ex-Google recruiter: I was fired because I resisted “illegal” diversity efforts
#19> In April of 2017, Google’s Technology Staffing Management team was instructed by Alogna to immediately cancel all Level 3 (0-5 years experience) software engineering interviews with every single applicant who was not either female, Black, or Hispanic and to purge entirely any applications by non-diverse employees from the hiring pipeline. Plaintiff refused to comply with this request. Good for him. Google is now exc…
It sounds like it was one manager. Is that all you need to blacklist an entire company?
This is a good point. There's a lot of negative press and truly appalling allegations swirling about Google, but it's near impossible to get an accurate idea of extent or even the truth of the situation from the outside.
Based on Reddit stories for a while, it seemed that even settin foot in the US was a near guarantee one would then be tasered, have their money taken by police officers, and then detained by agents from an unknown 3-letter agency and shipped to Guantanamo.
It's possible, though we have no way of knowing, that what's in this story is a case of a lone manager with an axe to grind. It's also possible that the attitude is pervasive.
It's likely best to withhold judgement and keep asking questions.
Re: Ex-Google recruiter: I was fired because I resisted “illegal” diversity efforts
#20This happens in many companies. The response rate is much higher if you refuse to specify the corresponding details in the application.
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