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Henley Passport Index – The number of countries holders can travel to visa-free

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Even though Japan and Singapore are tied at 180 a piece, they don't have the same 180.

Japan but not Singapore: India, Ethiopia, Gabon, Sao Tome and Principe, Falkland Islands, Guyana, and Venezuela

Singapore but not Japan: Myanmar, Burkina Faso, Cote d'Ivoire, Gambia, Ghana, Cuba, Brazil

I think you have to give the tie breaker to Japan because India is #2 in the world based on population and #6 based on GDP.

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More interesting than the list of individual countries, is which dual citizenship’s give the “best” value. I’m eligible for citizenship of at least 4 countries, typically it’s hard to maintain more than dual citizenship, so if this was the vector I wanted to optimize on, which pair would be best?

"typically it’s hard to maintain more than dual citizenship" I am considering taking a 3rd. I am aware of some of the hurdles but out of curiosity, where do you see problems?

Generally they don’t want to give naturalization to people with more than one nationality. But if you are a full right citizen by an other rule, you could end up with more than that.

A small detail has to be noted, wether it has been recognized or not and claimed or not, a lot of rules give citizenship to people. The paperwork is about claiming it officially.

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These rankings are the source of a constant joke between my girlfriend and me.

She, Singaporean, previously proudly pointed me at these lists to support her claim that the SG passport is the world's best. Over the last couple month the numbers shifted around a bit and for a time my German passport was ranked the same and for a while even higher.

Given that I have not a lot of experience with visa issues (due to the passport and limited traveling, mostly around in the Schengen area on top): How expensive/difficult/limiting is it if you need a visa for a lot of locations?

I think the only visa I ever needed was one for India and that was rather painless, straightforward and fast.

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These rankings are the source of a constant joke between my girlfriend and me. She, Singaporean, previously proudly pointed me at these lists to support her claim that the SG passport is the world's best. Over the last couple month the numbers shifted around a bit and for a time my German passport was ranked the same and for a while even higher. Given that I have not a lot of experience with visa issues (due to the p…

It can be somewhat inconvenient to being so debilitating that you need to plan years in advance.

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These rankings are the source of a constant joke between my girlfriend and me. She, Singaporean, previously proudly pointed me at these lists to support her claim that the SG passport is the world's best. Over the last couple month the numbers shifted around a bit and for a time my German passport was ranked the same and for a while even higher. Given that I have not a lot of experience with visa issues (due to the p…

Arab here. Don’t get me started. It’s not much the visa itself than the entire procedure. You have to book an interview in an embassy and the dates are usually fully booked so you would have to skip work or endure other costs. A lot of forms to fill and required documents from a variety of administartions. The worst part is the uncertainty.

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These rankings are the source of a constant joke between my girlfriend and me. She, Singaporean, previously proudly pointed me at these lists to support her claim that the SG passport is the world's best. Over the last couple month the numbers shifted around a bit and for a time my German passport was ranked the same and for a while even higher. Given that I have not a lot of experience with visa issues (due to the p…

Visas are really different per country. In some cases you need an appointment, with an interview. In other cases fill something online and pay a fee. A few are really an entry tax to get extra money off of foreigners so you get it on arrival after you pay the "visa fee".

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These rankings are the source of a constant joke between my girlfriend and me. She, Singaporean, previously proudly pointed me at these lists to support her claim that the SG passport is the world's best. Over the last couple month the numbers shifted around a bit and for a time my German passport was ranked the same and for a while even higher. Given that I have not a lot of experience with visa issues (due to the p…

It's usually not terribly expensive, but difficulty varies between painless and trip-cancelling.

Most countries these days will do it online for a nominal fee, easy as pie.

If you travel around Africa you'll semi-often find yourself sitting in waiting rooms on touchdown for a few hours while nobody can tell you what's going on, but I've never had an actual problem.

The only close shave I've had was Egypt, who required me to hand my passport into the embassy, then proceeded to delay for so long that I didn't have my passport the day before my (Sydney-Europe) flight. They wouldn't even give it back without the visa, insisting that they hand it handled. I was only able to get it after going to the embassy and refusing to leave until I had it in hand. Five hours later.

But I did get the visa.

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These rankings are the source of a constant joke between my girlfriend and me. She, Singaporean, previously proudly pointed me at these lists to support her claim that the SG passport is the world's best. Over the last couple month the numbers shifted around a bit and for a time my German passport was ranked the same and for a while even higher. Given that I have not a lot of experience with visa issues (due to the p…

You are lucky.

I hold a Chinese passport, which is one of the worst when it comes to visa restrictions.

The only upside I is I never make any visa mistakes - it’s hard to find out last minute you need a visa, when you need visa to practically anywhere!

Every international trip requires careful planning in advance. What countries I am visiting? What kind if visa should I get? When is the consulate open? Is there still appointments available? This is especially frustrating when visiting border regions - I had to skip the Argentinian side of Iguacu Falls because I will need another visa. This also makes it hard to go on spur of the moment trips.

Each visa application requires two trips to the consulate (one to send in the application and one to pick it up. a few issue them on the spot, but you will need to sit there for a couple of hours for them to print it), and around $100 in fees. The application form is very tedious and need all kind of supporting material. They usually require you to book the airfare and hotel, but are not responsible for any non refundable purchase if the visa is denied. Medical insurance requirement for Schengen Area is the most annoying. My health insurance covers emergency treatment abroad, and credit card insurance covers accidents, but they cannot give me a letter that says the magic word the consulate wants ($50k coverage, no deductible, covers treatment, evacuation and repatriation) so I have to buy commercial insurance that I don’t need (there’s literally tons of businesses selling insurance and letter as a package). You also need to provide pay slip and bank statement, but comparatively they are minor annoyances.

So what kind of visa will you get? It varies by consulate, and there’s little you can do about them. UK issues two-year visa in China, but not in the U.S. (technically they do, they just cost an astronomical sum) Japan issues five year visa for H1B holders in Detroit and San Francisco, but not New York and Washington.

Do you have a question? Good luck finding someone who can help. Visa section typically don’t have phone numbers, so you have to send an email and hope for a reply (if you are lucky they have published their address) or go in and ask.

An often overlooked problem with needing so many visas is your passport run out faster - each visa takes two pages, one for the sticker and another for the stamp. Replacing passport is, of course, annoying and costly.

So yeah, it is miserable. Hopefully this encourages you to travel the world more, knowing how lucky you are with your passports :)

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"typically it’s hard to maintain more than dual citizenship" I am considering taking a 3rd. I am aware of some of the hurdles but out of curiosity, where do you see problems?

I have three (US and two EU countries) and as far as I am aware the biggest hurdle is paying for multiple passport renewals.

Citizenship doesn't go away just because you don't renew your passport.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

"typically it’s hard to maintain more than dual citizenship" I am considering taking a 3rd. I am aware of some of the hurdles but out of curiosity, where do you see problems?

Generally they don’t want to give naturalization to people with more than one nationality. But if you are a full right citizen by an other rule, you could end up with more than that. A small detail has to be noted, wether it has been recognized or not and claimed or not, a lot of rules give citizenship to people. The paperwork is about claiming it officially.

Got source? The vast majority of countries either a) insist you renounce all other citizenships on naturalization, whether it's one or three, or b) don't care how many you have.
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