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Re: Does this look familiar to anyone?

#11
I find it dubious not only for the massive plagiarism (even the word limit!) but in that they seem to lack the l33t skills needed to make an HTML form submission page.

I think having YC in your corner is a boost; these guys look like they'd HURT your chances. Why would you want people who are unoriginal and unscrupulous dragging you down?

Re: Does this look familiar to anyone?

#12
post #8

hey guys, chill out. Is the application the same as YC? (It is not currently posted on YC, so I don't know). Other than the unattributed copying of the YC application... This seems like a totally different deal. He's not just giving a tiny bit of money to fresh college grads and making you move to San Jose for 3 months, it looks like it is going to be an actual co-op where each group accepted gets part of the pie fro…

Well, since I didn't apply to YC, I didn't know the application... and the current app is gone from the YC site. But, here's a previous YC app: http://ycombinator.com/s7app.txt

It is a bit disturbing that he took everything exactly... even the parenthetic remarks which make him sound like PG.

But, other than that glaring trust-killer, it does seem pretty cool to have an alternative to YC, which is just not feasible for me.

Re: Does this look familiar to anyone?

#13
post #8

hey guys, chill out. Is the application the same as YC? (It is not currently posted on YC, so I don't know). Other than the unattributed copying of the YC application... This seems like a totally different deal. He's not just giving a tiny bit of money to fresh college grads and making you move to San Jose for 3 months, it looks like it is going to be an actual co-op where each group accepted gets part of the pie fro…

Yeah, it's basically verbatim plagiarism. Check out, for example, http://web.archive.org/web/20060825161615/ycombinator.com/w7...

Re: Does this look familiar to anyone?

#14
post #12
post #8

hey guys, chill out. Is the application the same as YC? (It is not currently posted on YC, so I don't know). Other than the unattributed copying of the YC application... This seems like a totally different deal. He's not just giving a tiny bit of money to fresh college grads and making you move to San Jose for 3 months, it looks like it is going to be an actual co-op where each group accepted gets part of the pie fro…

Well, since I didn't apply to YC, I didn't know the application... and the current app is gone from the YC site. But, here's a previous YC app: http://ycombinator.com/s7app.txt It is a bit disturbing that he took everything exactly... even the parenthetic remarks which make him sound like PG. But, other than that glaring trust-killer, it does seem pretty cool to have an alternative to YC, which is just not feasible f…

> It is a bit disturbing that he took everything exactly...

Still think they sound legit?

Re: Does this look familiar to anyone?

#15
post #7

Calm down. This is precisely how industries standardize. No one thought it was "sickening" when search engines pages started to imitate each other's blue title + grey descr + green url design. It was just an obviously good idea.

Calm down. This is precisely how industries standardize. No one thought it was "sickening" when search engines pages started to imitate each other's blue title + grey descr + green url design. It was just an obviously good idea.

How does that feel, bitch?

Re: Does this look familiar to anyone?

#16
post #14
post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, since I didn't apply to YC, I didn't know the application... and the current app is gone from the YC site. But, here's a previous YC app: http://ycombinator.com/s7app.txt It is a bit disturbing that he took everything exactly... even the parenthetic remarks which make him sound like PG. But, other than that glaring trust-killer, it does seem pretty cool to have an alternative to YC, which is just not feasible f…

> It is a bit disturbing that he took everything exactly... Still think they sound legit?

Well, his linkedin.com profile has about 400 connections, and I've got about 5 or 6 people linking us, so I know he is a real person who has real connections and real startups. Judy's Book had a huge following, and I have seen him in the local paper here and there.

But, it is definitely concerning. I wrote him an email just now and gave him the link to this thread. If he writes me back I'll let you all know.

Re: Does this look familiar to anyone?

#17
post #9

Again, I don't understand the super-reactionary responses here every time that there's something based on YC. By the YC founders own assessments they can't accommodate all of the good ideas that they're receiving. And what of this, "Well, they're going to suck..." Do you think YC was perfect right off of the bat? Really? Sure, the copy-cats will be rough at first, then they'll, like most ventures, find ways to differ…

It's not about copying the idea.

It's about making yourself look like a total asshat by copying someone else's writing verbatim and passing it off as your own.

> which I'm sure they'd rectify if asked,

"If you have to ask..."

> then they'll, like most ventures, find ways to differentiate themselves and do their thing or die.

There's a YC copycat in India that differentiates itself by posting armed guards to keep you in your office until midnight. And not let you sleep. Seriously.

http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=158049

Re: Does this look familiar to anyone?

#18
post #7

Calm down. This is precisely how industries standardize. No one thought it was "sickening" when search engines pages started to imitate each other's blue title + grey descr + green url design. It was just an obviously good idea.

There are plenty of me-too's borrowing from YC's model in an attempt to clone it. This company just happens to take the additional step of stealing from the YC application.

It's shady but it goes on. Be glad some light was shed on this particular misuse and skip these guys if you don't agree with their actions.

They won't hurt YC's brand and they won't injure the value of the YC companies. This type of thing -- whether an act of theft, laziness, or both -- only hurts the offender. Just looks at some of the other comments in this thread.

I'm with aristus... this isn't anything to get excited about.

Re: Does this look familiar to anyone?

#19
post #4

These all seem so blatant at this point, but if the trend is moving towards early-stage/micro-investments like this, then most likely we'll be seeing lots more where this came from. But when YC has all the cred which serves to give a nice profile boost to YC-funded startups, what can these others offer that amounts to the same thing? There's the community, experience and hookups with further funding opportunities, bu…

Local is a plus.

Re: Does this look familiar to anyone?

#20
post #2

I would argue that if you're going to go the trouble of including a "Shout-outs" page, you should mention the company who's application you stole verbatim: http://www.founderscoop.com/shout-outs.php

Brad Feld, whose blog appears on that page, also has a hand in TechStars (their application was copied from YC too).
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