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Re: Email overload? Try Priority Inbox

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Post by joshuacc »

spicyj wrote: post #32
davidw wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Gmail is starting to remind me more and more why I like free software so much: I want the ability to hack it to do what I want. The feature I'm desperate for is to have it use specific email addresses with specific people: dedasys.com for most correspondence, gmail with family, maybe hecl.org for that mailing list, and so on. Sure you can change it manually, but it's a pain in the neck. The reason I don't run my own…

I'm not sure if this is identical to Gmail's filtering, but Google has SaaS spam filtering: http://www.google.com/postini/email.html

I used to work at a local ISP that outsourced spam filtering to Postini (before it was aquired by Google). It was a really impressive service at the time, and I imagine it's improved since then.

Re: Email overload? Try Priority Inbox

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Post by tierack »

TheSOB88 wrote: post #75
marcamillion wrote: post #23

Anyone know who made that video?

I'm guessing it's internal, put together by Google people on their 20% hours. Technical people can be creative, too! At least, that's what I'd like to think.

I'm guessing it's internal, but made one of their marketing teams. (http://www.notesondesign.net/inspiration/advertising/google-...)

Re: Email overload? Try Priority Inbox

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Post by chrismiller »

studer wrote: post #71
chrismiller wrote: post #34

Hopefully this will be available for Google Apps hosted email.

It says so in the announcement, so that's pretty likely. "Priority Inbox will be rolling out to all Gmail users, including those of you who use Google Apps, over the next week or so."

Don't know how I missed that. Thanks.

Re: Email overload? Try Priority Inbox

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Post by qeorge »

jlouis wrote: post #64
aresant wrote: post #36

This is a BRILLIANT feature that I hope stimulates somebody on HN to build around Outlook. GMAIL hovers around 5% of email client usage. Outlook still owns somewhere between 35 - 43%. MSFT was moving in this direction and had a decent solution out a few years back called Email Prioritizer. Of course, they tossed before it made it out of labs. Xobni is too complex IMO, what's so compelling about Google's system is how…

I think Gmail has much more than 5% of the market. It may be that Outlook is installed on 35-45% of all computers, but nobody currently has numbers for the use of the application. If I can get away with it, I prefer forwarding mails so I don't have to deal with Outlook. And so should all sane companies: Outlook waste their time.

1) The parent's link indicated that this is real usage data, from Campaign Monitor. CM and similar use tracking pixels, and can detect what client is being used to open the email.

2) I use Outlook all the time, as do many people I work with. Gmail is great for webmail, but its not a replacement for Outlook, especially if you rely heavily on contacts, calendar, tasks, or search.

Re: Email overload? Try Priority Inbox

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Post by jgrahamc »

mcherm wrote: post #67
jgrahamc wrote: post #33

Well, that kills my idea of creating a commercial service based on my fast classifier to do automatic labeling of messages in GMail.

No it doesn't. You just need to execute better than Google did. For instance, why have 3 classes ("normal", "bacn", and "spam"), why not have 7 or 8 categories instead? How about a better tool for training the classifier so it conforms to your own use? Competition is HARDER when Google gets in the mix, but it doesn't mean you have to give up!

You are right. And what I want to do is automatically label the email in arbitrary ways just like POPFile does. Hmm. Maybe I really should work on this since it would work for anyone who has an IMAP accessible account.

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Post by moultano »

avar wrote: post #54
moultano wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Without knowing anything detailed about how all this is implemented, it looks to be derived from nothing more than is stored in your inbox: The text of the emails, and whether they are read and replied to. As such it seems like strictly less information than you are requesting that they store.

In the presentation they say that it's partially based on what E-Mails you read. So they're tracking more than just the information in your inbox, they're also considering how you use your inbox through the GMail web interface.

The read/unread state of each email is obviously stored to construct the ui. That seems like data you are already asking them to store.

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Post by malbiniak »

spicyj wrote: post #14

This sort of feature always makes me sad that they announce features before rolling them out to everyone. Now I can't wait for it to show up in my account.

It should be along shortly, if not already. I've got it in my personal gmail account and my apps account.

Re: Email overload? Try Priority Inbox

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Post by weavejester »

qeorge wrote: post #84
jlouis wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think Gmail has much more than 5% of the market. It may be that Outlook is installed on 35-45% of all computers, but nobody currently has numbers for the use of the application. If I can get away with it, I prefer forwarding mails so I don't have to deal with Outlook. And so should all sane companies: Outlook waste their time.

1) The parent's link indicated that this is real usage data, from Campaign Monitor. CM and similar use tracking pixels, and can detect what client is being used to open the email. 2) I use Outlook all the time, as do many people I work with. Gmail is great for webmail, but its not a replacement for Outlook, especially if you rely heavily on contacts, calendar, tasks, or search.

Gmail is great for webmail, but its not a replacement for Outlook, especially if you rely heavily on contacts, calendar, tasks, or search.

Really? I find Google Apps to be better in all four of those categories, especially search. What makes Outlook superior in those categories?

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Post by levesque »

qeorge wrote: post #84
jlouis wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think Gmail has much more than 5% of the market. It may be that Outlook is installed on 35-45% of all computers, but nobody currently has numbers for the use of the application. If I can get away with it, I prefer forwarding mails so I don't have to deal with Outlook. And so should all sane companies: Outlook waste their time.

1) The parent's link indicated that this is real usage data, from Campaign Monitor. CM and similar use tracking pixels, and can detect what client is being used to open the email. 2) I use Outlook all the time, as do many people I work with. Gmail is great for webmail, but its not a replacement for Outlook, especially if you rely heavily on contacts, calendar, tasks, or search.

I work from multiple locations often, having my contacts, emails, calendar and tasks available from any location is very important to me. The only feature in which I think gmail is lacking/lagging behind is the tasks one.

I've tried using synchronization tools before but they often deal with only one aspect at a time and do so rather poorly (last time I checked, about 1 and a half year ago)

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