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RIP Redux: Dan Abramovich Announces Future-Fetcher

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Re: RIP Redux: Dan Abramovich Announces Future-Fetcher

#11

"However, fast forward to 2018 and React.js is the popular choice for React.js development." Huh?

"With Future Fetcher Dan Abramovich pushes for interacting with objects and it's methods directly rather than."

Rather than what?

In fact another article linked ends pretty abruptly too.

Re: RIP Redux: Dan Abramovich Announces Future-Fetcher

#13
The async rendering rendering stuff Dan is showing in his talk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_c7ajDXb4qw) looks great, but I disagree that this is a redux killer.

redux is useful for a lot more than just async fetching & loading. I think these new features will just reduce the scope of what redux is used heavily for.

Re: RIP Redux: Dan Abramovich Announces Future-Fetcher

#16
Future fetcher is not a replacement for Redux. It's a feature they will be adding to React later on in 2018 to allow devs to adaptively render elements based on network performance. You can signal to React to delay rendering specific components until an async operation is complete.

Redux is a state management layer. Future fetching does nothing to solve app-level state management.

Gross misrepresentation of Dan's talk by this article and he made zero mention of the React context API in the talk.

Re: RIP Redux: Dan Abramovich Announces Future-Fetcher

#17
I think it'll also be interesting to see how Apollo continues to evolve in this space as more people adopt GraphQL in their React apps. Apollo is getting more and more state management features that can handle lots of what Redux is doing:

https://dev-blog.apollodata.com/the-future-of-state-manageme...

Re: RIP Redux: Dan Abramovich Announces Future-Fetcher

#18
post #17

I think it'll also be interesting to see how Apollo continues to evolve in this space as more people adopt GraphQL in their React apps. Apollo is getting more and more state management features that can handle lots of what Redux is doing: https://dev-blog.apollodata.com/the-future-of-state-manageme...

Apollo uses Redux under the hood.

Re: RIP Redux: Dan Abramovich Announces Future-Fetcher

#19
> The concepts are clear to those with a Computer Science (CS) educational background, but since the large mass web developers come mostly outside of this arena it is a hindrance.

Seriously?

A CS degree is not necessary in order to understand functional programming, and it's not like reducer functions are all that complicated.

Re: RIP Redux: Dan Abramovich Announces Future-Fetcher

#20
post #17

I think it'll also be interesting to see how Apollo continues to evolve in this space as more people adopt GraphQL in their React apps. Apollo is getting more and more state management features that can handle lots of what Redux is doing: https://dev-blog.apollodata.com/the-future-of-state-manageme...

Apollo uses Redux under the hood.

This is no longer the case with Apollo 2.0.
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