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Facebook rolls out job posts to become the blue-collar LinkedIn

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Re: Facebook rolls out job posts to become the blue-collar LinkedIn

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Post by Karunamon »

blablabla123 wrote: post #55

This is soo wrong. This will consolidate a 2 class work world. One that deserves to be on LinkedIn and one that is only present on Facebook. Even worse, those in the "lower" class even have to deal with their job life creeping into their private lives. Really stupid, everybody should have both a LinkedIn and a Facebook account.

I don't understand this complaint. Facebook should avoid offering job advertisements because... some people won't use it out of their own choice, therefore classism? Maybe I'm misinterpreting, but I can't follow the logic.

Both LinkedIn and Facebook accounts are free for anyone to create and use to their full extent. How is this service not a net positive if it gets people legitimate jobs? Is that not competition? Isn't more options a good thing?

Re: Facebook rolls out job posts to become the blue-collar LinkedIn

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Post by CamelCaseName »

beachy wrote: post #107
CamelCaseName wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wouldn't Facebook be the single best equipped company to stop potential discrimination? E.g. You submit an application for a job posting - once that application is opened, Facebook could block anyone who has used that IP in the past 30 days from accessing your profile. I imagine Facebook is where most publicly accessible personal data is, if they could be compelled to, by PR or law, they could dramatically curb discr…

That would be trivial to circumvent (pick up your phone and browse their profile from that) and would have false negatives (large company with many users behind NAT).

Yes sorry, that was just a trivial example to try to explain my thoughts.

How do you see Facebook stifling discrimination?

Re: Facebook rolls out job posts to become the blue-collar LinkedIn

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Post by nareiber »

vinceguidry wrote: post #32

I read a story recently about a guy who, through sheer happenstance, managed to fix his entire life. He had gotten laid off of his job and was getting desperate. He usually picked up the New York Post and applied to the jobs he saw there. This time they were out of the Post, so he grabbed the Times. He saw an ad for a job fair. He went to the fair. The fair was practically empty, but the employers were desperate, the…

>The job fair folks didn't realize that blue collar workers didn't read the Times, so that's the reason why the fair was empty.

Quite the assertion, that one. I feel like this was ripped straight out of an insane FWD:FWD:FWD email thread one of my older relatives would send.

Re: Facebook rolls out job posts to become the blue-collar LinkedIn

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Post by Balgair »

astral303 wrote: post #133
Balgair wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been on the hunt for a while and I'll echo these sentiments. Indeed, Zip, Monster, LinkedIn, most of them are just 'ghost' jobs. Maybe they already have an internal candidate, maybe they have had the posting up for 2 years, maybe they are recruiters that are just fishing idly. There's a million reasons, but they all end up being just a time suck and resume black-hole. Look, I know: network. That's the way to get…

One idea: look up the closest somewhat-relevant tech meetup on meetup.com -- it might be worthwhile to travel, even if it's 3 hours away.

Oh man, I've done a lot of this. The problem is that everyone else is trying to get a job too, there aren't really any employers here despite the med campus. Thanks for the tip though.

Re: Facebook rolls out job posts to become the blue-collar LinkedIn

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Post by Balgair »

iamdave wrote: post #132
Balgair wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been on the hunt for a while and I'll echo these sentiments. Indeed, Zip, Monster, LinkedIn, most of them are just 'ghost' jobs. Maybe they already have an internal candidate, maybe they have had the posting up for 2 years, maybe they are recruiters that are just fishing idly. There's a million reasons, but they all end up being just a time suck and resume black-hole. Look, I know: network. That's the way to get…

I'm not even lying when I say this: 2 out of my last 3 jobs as a remote site reliability engineer have come from Reddit. They were contract gigs, and you have to do a bit more work vetting folks, but every now and then you'll find a recruiter who actually knows wtf they're doing with tech people. So yeah, 2/3 in 5 years getting quality remote jobs via reddit of all places. /r/forhire, /r/devopsjobs, /r/sysadminjobs

I'll try this out for bio-tech, thanks for the tip.

Re: Facebook rolls out job posts to become the blue-collar LinkedIn

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Post by nuggien »

chrisseaton wrote: post #86
vanadium wrote: post #63

"One in four people in the US have searched for or found a job using Facebook" [citation needed]

Citation needed? That doesn’t make any sense in this context. It’s a primary source. They know what people search for in their own site. That’s like me saying I found my job using a newspaper and you saying citation needed. I just told you what I know to be true. Do you go around snapping ‘citation needed’ at anyone who tells you anything about their business? Madness.

When you throw out statistical numbers as some sort of fact, then "citation needed" is absolutely meaningful in this context.

Re: Facebook rolls out job posts to become the blue-collar LinkedIn

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Post by paulie_a »

herogreen wrote: post #139
paulie_a wrote: post #31

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To be fair they became the internet's rolodex by outright stealing your address book and sending fake invites to people on your behalf.

And now they have put a join-wall that is hard to circumvent (erasing cookies does not seem to suffice). It is one of the reasons why I hope to never join Linkedin.

After deleting my account, I've had to look up a couple people recently and encountered that. My only thought is: "thanks LinkedIn for making yourself increasingly irrelevant"

Re: Facebook rolls out job posts to become the blue-collar LinkedIn

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Post by chrisseaton »

nuggien wrote: post #147
chrisseaton wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Citation needed? That doesn’t make any sense in this context. It’s a primary source. They know what people search for in their own site. That’s like me saying I found my job using a newspaper and you saying citation needed. I just told you what I know to be true. Do you go around snapping ‘citation needed’ at anyone who tells you anything about their business? Madness.

When you throw out statistical numbers as some sort of fact, then "citation needed" is absolutely meaningful in this context.

Literally who do you think they could cite? Who else apart from Facebook knows what people on Facebook search for? You can't cite someone else for data you have collected yourself. At some point the chain of citations needs to start with someone presenting some data. We can't all endlessly cite each other in a big chain.

Do you reject all new collected data because it doesn't come with a citation?

Re: Facebook rolls out job posts to become the blue-collar LinkedIn

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Post by dingo_bat »

jiojfekjl wrote: post #18
whatshisface wrote: post #4

There's some who argue that having all of your life in one place, recorded, won't be a problem because society will be forced to shift in a more liberal direction and stop judging people. The alternative outcome is that this forces a hard crystallization around various very specific cultures, where for every community there's a list of "weird stuff that everyone does," and "stuff that gets you ostracized." So for exa…

"There's some who argue" Let's be clear about who. Who is arguing that people need separate identities for work, family, and friends? Sociologists Who is arguing that having a single identity will make society more open? Mark Zuckerberg. Source: https://boingboing.net/2018/01/22/facebook-is-sad.html

Since Mark Zuckerberg has single handedly done more good for humanity than the entire field of sociology, I wonder what you want to imply.
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