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China using big data to detain people before crime is committed

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Re: China using big data to detain people before crime is committed

#11
As described by Martin Kleppmann at the end of his great book, big data analytics, when used without proper regulation, creates a downward spiral. Western world enforced rules against discrimination based on sex, race, etc., yet everyone seems fine when it's the algorithm spotting and executing on the biases, which statistically are fine, but nevertheless, may be wrong in many individual cases.

Re: China using big data to detain people before crime is committed

#14

Does it actually work? Or are the "criminals" just social activists?

They are not "criminals" if they never committed a crime, they are people being detained based on probabilities.

That's the point where you rule probabilities to commit a crime is an actual crime.

Re: China using big data to detain people before crime is committed

#15
This will be rolled out further and further, first the rest of China, then other parts of Asia, eventually Europe and the Americas. Strongly resist the rollout of this technology, along with the social credit rating systems.

This is like the last chapter of humanity before we stagnate for hundreds of years.

Re: China using big data to detain people before crime is committed

#16

Don't we all already do this to some extent? Our intelligence agencies (at least try to) predict terrorist activity and put a stop to it be before anything happens.

Flagging people for human review and monitoring =\= detaining them

Re: China using big data to detain people before crime is committed

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post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They are not "criminals" if they never committed a crime, they are people being detained based on probabilities.

That's the point where you rule probabilities to commit a crime is an actual crime.

Using probabilities as "evidence" of a future action is the real crime.

Re: China using big data to detain people before crime is committed

#19

Don't we all already do this to some extent? Our intelligence agencies (at least try to) predict terrorist activity and put a stop to it be before anything happens.

You're assuming it's being used to "predict terrorist activity" and not for general population control.

Re: China using big data to detain people before crime is committed

#20
post #5

"Minority Report"

For the uninitiated, it's an amazing movie starring Tom Cruise which talks about "precrime" - although no big data involved. Highly recommend that one watch it https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minority_Report_(film)
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