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A few months ago I turned off Facebook notifications on my phone. Then I turned off Messenger notifications. I recently deleted the Facebook app. A month ago, the Messenger app moved to page two. Two weeks ago I deleted both from my phone (still have WhatsApp) and force myself to log out when I visit on my laptop. I'm not sure this is the level of disconnection I'll remain at. (Maybe only in election years.) I do thi…
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> Why should I not bring my politics to work? Isn't bringing politics to work what got us the 40 hour work week and the weekend? There are different kinds of politics. There's the old saying "never discuss politics or religion at the dinner table," and I think the "politics" there are the kind that are more akin to religious belief: beliefs that are strongly held, where compromise is difficult or impossible, and have…
Even for the politics that "got us the 40 hour work week and the weekend", I think the integration is problematic. Essentially Facebook has traditionally been a social network first, and many people's Facebook activity feed reflect more what they do "off hours" and are more conversational in nature. It is relatively easy to skim profile feeds (entire histories of data), and it just seems like it isn't a big step to i…
You also make a good point about this enabling deniable illegality in the hiring process.
I was just only trying to clarify the kinds of politics that belong at work and the kind that doesn't in my comment, with little to no reference to the Facebook angle of the OP.
There's some who argue that having all of your life in one place, recorded, won't be a problem because society will be forced to shift in a more liberal direction and stop judging people. The alternative outcome is that this forces a hard crystallization around various very specific cultures, where for every community there's a list of "weird stuff that everyone does," and "stuff that gets you ostracized." So for exa…
In a bid to capture all aspects of your “true” identity (that too, for marketing purposes) Facebook is trying to force legibility [1] on something it fundamentally doesn’t understand. If it succeeds, then we might have the largest disaster caused by a bureaucracy, the kind one has learned to expect from reckless government planning [1,2].
[1] https://www.ribbonfarm.com/2010/07/26/a-big-little-idea-call...
[2] https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/20186.Seeing_Like_a_Stat...
Then: Just by working for a corporation, your vote is "bought", so now on to phase two of the plan where corporations pick which corporate political entities their serfs vote for.
Your incorporated utopia awaits.
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"There's some who argue" Let's be clear about who. Who is arguing that people need separate identities for work, family, and friends? Sociologists Who is arguing that having a single identity will make society more open? Mark Zuckerberg. Source: https://boingboing.net/2018/01/22/facebook-is-sad.html
Sociologists and marginalized people. As a young man I had a few friends and acquaintances who intimated that they had been stalked. My ex wife shared a story of being stalked by a deputy sheriff. And I can’t recall now but she may have been underage at the time to boot. Pretty quickly I saw a pattern. People who don’t want privacy have never cared about someone who really needed it. Or needed it themselves. If you t…
A few months ago I turned off Facebook notifications on my phone. Then I turned off Messenger notifications. I recently deleted the Facebook app. A month ago, the Messenger app moved to page two. Two weeks ago I deleted both from my phone (still have WhatsApp) and force myself to log out when I visit on my laptop. I'm not sure this is the level of disconnection I'll remain at. (Maybe only in election years.) I do thi…
So, are you happier?
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I’m pretty sure I remember an article on HN a while back talking about employers demanding applicants’ social media passwords as conditions of employment, so they can go through and look for this stuff. So, in reality the applicants’ personal lives are already in the sphere.
People ask for things they can’t ask for all the time. Being a property manager in Seattle pretty much seems to require willful ignorance of renters rights because they make money off of your ignorance. My first job out of school I never had a non-compete because I refused to sign the first one and told them to give me another one, which they promptly forgot. It said I couldn’t work in Internet Technology for a perio…
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Why should I not bring my politics to work? Isn't bringing politics to work what got us the 40 hour work week and the weekend?
> Why should I not bring my politics to work? Isn't bringing politics to work what got us the 40 hour work week and the weekend? There are different kinds of politics. There's the old saying "never discuss politics or religion at the dinner table," and I think the "politics" there are the kind that are more akin to religious belief: beliefs that are strongly held, where compromise is difficult or impossible, and have…