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Re: Facebook rolls out job posts to become the blue-collar LinkedIn

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LinkedIn uselessness with Facebook creepiness™

I actually like LinkedIn because hey know they are the internet’s Rolodex and (more importantly) people on the site mostly use it that way. If I were pressured by society/peers to be “active” on LinkedIn in the same way we are pressured in an abstract sense to be on Facebook, it would lose all utility for me.

To be fair they became the internet's rolodex by outright stealing your address book and sending fake invites to people on your behalf.

Re: Facebook rolls out job posts to become the blue-collar LinkedIn

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I read a story recently about a guy who, through sheer happenstance, managed to fix his entire life. He had gotten laid off of his job and was getting desperate. He usually picked up the New York Post and applied to the jobs he saw there.

This time they were out of the Post, so he grabbed the Times. He saw an ad for a job fair. He went to the fair. The fair was practically empty, but the employers were desperate, the first recruiter he meets basically just takes his info down, tells him where to report to and when he starts.

The job fair folks didn't realize that blue collar workers didn't read the Times, so that's the reason why the fair was empty.

Blue collar job matching still appears to be a blue ocean and Facebook seems to be uniquely positioned to serve that market. If they can get this right, this could end blue-collar unemployment overnight.

Re: Facebook rolls out job posts to become the blue-collar LinkedIn

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m pretty sure I remember an article on HN a while back talking about employers demanding applicants’ social media passwords as conditions of employment, so they can go through and look for this stuff. So, in reality the applicants’ personal lives are already in the sphere.

I believe some states have made legislation to prevent that. But why would anyone ever want to work for a company that would even attempt that sort of thing? That is clearly a sign that they will not respect work/life balance.

Most job seekers are unfortunately not in a position to be picky about the job offerings. I agree it is a blatant violation of privacy though.

Re: Facebook rolls out job posts to become the blue-collar LinkedIn

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m pretty sure I remember an article on HN a while back talking about employers demanding applicants’ social media passwords as conditions of employment, so they can go through and look for this stuff. So, in reality the applicants’ personal lives are already in the sphere.

I believe some states have made legislation to prevent that. But why would anyone ever want to work for a company that would even attempt that sort of thing? That is clearly a sign that they will not respect work/life balance.

>But why would anyone ever want to work for a company that would even attempt that sort of thing?

Sometimes you don’t have a choice. The only place I worked where they demanded this was my first job out of college and I’d already been selling plasma and working part time third shift at a warehouse trying to keep my apartment while I was job hunting.

It’s scummy but sometimes you need money and can’t say no, and employers know that. Especially unskilled positions or entry level jobs where you have zero leverage.

Re: Facebook rolls out job posts to become the blue-collar LinkedIn

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A few months ago I turned off Facebook notifications on my phone. Then I turned off Messenger notifications. I recently deleted the Facebook app. A month ago, the Messenger app moved to page two. Two weeks ago I deleted both from my phone (still have WhatsApp) and force myself to log out when I visit on my laptop. I'm not sure this is the level of disconnection I'll remain at. (Maybe only in election years.) I do thi…

Facebook seems to have adopted the dark pattern of messenger notifications of "1" even after I have deleted all chats. Every time I open the facebook app I am alerted of a new message. I've gone so far as to file a report with facebook, but have not heard back. I assume this behavior is intentional at this point.

They do the same for me in the FB app on the Marketplace section. They’ll put a red icon down there that makes me visit that section to make it go away.

Unfortunately the only things I see on there are cars where the list price is $1 but when you open the ad it’s actually $20k. I’ve reported those to Facebook as scams but the response was “these are legitimate ads” so there’s no reason to go back. Other than that damn red icon.

Re: Facebook rolls out job posts to become the blue-collar LinkedIn

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This is so wrong on so many levels, I don't even know where to start. I was told for years and years to keep my business life separate from my personal life.

It's actually quite scary people are going to fall for it and use this and in the process, hand over a myriad of information that should be protected, solely for the purposes of screening people based on their personal life and their choices therein.

Scary, very, very scary.

Re: Facebook rolls out job posts to become the blue-collar LinkedIn

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I read a story recently about a guy who, through sheer happenstance, managed to fix his entire life. He had gotten laid off of his job and was getting desperate. He usually picked up the New York Post and applied to the jobs he saw there. This time they were out of the Post, so he grabbed the Times. He saw an ad for a job fair. He went to the fair. The fair was practically empty, but the employers were desperate, the…

Except in your example, blue collar doesn't appear to use the internet to find jobs or job fairs, even if they have a Facebook account.

This reads like a pitch for smart devices for baby boomers. Sure it's a blue ocean, but most retirees don't use smart devices, even though they may have a cell phone.

Re: Facebook rolls out job posts to become the blue-collar LinkedIn

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No... Just no! Facebook crawls into every portion of our lives. I killed my account because of its insidious feature creep. You don't put up photos of yourself in a swimsuit at work and would sue any workplace that demanded that you show them those pictures. You shouldn't bring your political beliefs into work, and would be uncomfortable if your boss cornered you and demanded to know how you felt about the president…

Facebook is chock full of information that is illegal to ask about in job applications like marital and family status, sexual orientation, age, religion, etc. If this feature saw much adoption it seems like it would only result in greater discrimination. Beyond that, this move is surprising to me because we've been seeing a lot of stories lately about Facebook struggling to get people to post original content after l…

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Re: Facebook rolls out job posts to become the blue-collar LinkedIn

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In the short run, this may be a great revenue-growth opportunity for Facebook.

That said, prospective employees will want to look their best for prospective employers, and vice versa, so I have a nagging feeling that the job-posting initiative will further accelerate Facebook's ongoing transition from a network of genuine profiles and social connections to a network of puffed-up, cleaned-up social resumes and necessarily superficial connections.

I say "ongoing" because many Facebook profiles have already become puffed-up, cleaned-up social resumes, and many Facebook connections have become superficial links between people who may not necessarily like or even want to spend time with each other.

Re: Facebook rolls out job posts to become the blue-collar LinkedIn

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> Meanwhile, job seekers can discover openings, auto-fill applications with their Facebook profile information And soon we will need discussion on how a job seeker is being shunned at a workplace for his/her personal views which came bundled with these auto-fill forms. I can be wrong but whenever I read stuff like these it seems to me companies, specially social networking, are running out of ideas and just scraping…

Hopefully this doesn't stick 2 years from now.

"Must apply via our Facebook listing - please have the show all photos checkbox selected" - Granted, that probably won't affect white collar workers as heavily

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