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Re: How to Learn Piano with Technology

#41

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Serious question: what does it mean that perfect accuracy is a bad thing? I'm not a pianist and I'm not a professional, but I'm an amateur oboist (20 years in student/amateur orchestras). I think of technical accuracy as necessary but not sufficient for playing music. When I really have a piece down technically I can focus 100% on musicality, but I want the technical parts down solid. Of course as I'm practicing, I a…

For a simple example, any music that “grooves” (makes you want to tap your feet) tends to not be perfectly sub-divided into 4 beats. Different players in the same band may be intentionally (and/or subconsciously) hitting their notes on different parts of the beat to increase this effect. In this type of scenario there really isn’t any substitution for practice and “feel”, a metronome would never get you there. In ter…

Pop and jazz have "the pocket", which is where the groove clicks into maximum effectiveness.

Classical has phrasing.

IMO it's the same phenomenon. It's one of the most effective ways to add expression, and it's mostly taught aurally. There's very little in books for beginners about it.

If you're taught to play metronomically, you may never understand why it matters. Someone who is naturally musical will feel it without being told about it, but may still struggle to bring it out of their playing.

Re: How to Learn Piano with Technology

#42

These sorts of tools are definitely useful, especially for those that otherwise wouldn't have access to music instruction. But there would be huge pieces missing: teaching musicianship (perfect accuracy is a bad thing), finding repertoire to engage the student, arranging performance opportunities... Basically, I think these tools replace bad piano teachers. Of course, there are a lot of bad piano teachers out there (…

Add in that technology can measure certain things, like whether you hit the right notes, but can't measure other things, like whether:

1. your posture is terrible (shoulders, arms, etc.)

2. you are arching / lowering your wrists

3. you are humming to yourself while playing ala keith jarrett

4. you are using the correct fingerings

5. you are playing in a way that can be sustainable for hours a day (e.g. you can play poorly for 1 hour but not for 40 hours / week)

Re: How to Learn Piano with Technology

#44

I bet it's not as effective as an old lady with 5 decades of piano teaching experience. Every town has one.

My sisters teacher was a Catholic nun who would get mad and slap them if they played sloppily. My teacher was a very nice lady who never raised her voice. My sisters progressed a lot faster

Re: How to Learn Piano with Technology

#45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Serious question: what does it mean that perfect accuracy is a bad thing? I'm not a pianist and I'm not a professional, but I'm an amateur oboist (20 years in student/amateur orchestras). I think of technical accuracy as necessary but not sufficient for playing music. When I really have a piece down technically I can focus 100% on musicality, but I want the technical parts down solid. Of course as I'm practicing, I a…

For a simple example, any music that “grooves” (makes you want to tap your feet) tends to not be perfectly sub-divided into 4 beats. Different players in the same band may be intentionally (and/or subconsciously) hitting their notes on different parts of the beat to increase this effect. In this type of scenario there really isn’t any substitution for practice and “feel”, a metronome would never get you there. In ter…

I see. I guess it was just me misinterpreting "perfect". To me it's obviously not perfect to play like a robot.

Re: How to Learn Piano with Technology

#46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Serious question: what does it mean that perfect accuracy is a bad thing? I'm not a pianist and I'm not a professional, but I'm an amateur oboist (20 years in student/amateur orchestras). I think of technical accuracy as necessary but not sufficient for playing music. When I really have a piece down technically I can focus 100% on musicality, but I want the technical parts down solid. Of course as I'm practicing, I a…

For a simple example, any music that “grooves” (makes you want to tap your feet) tends to not be perfectly sub-divided into 4 beats. Different players in the same band may be intentionally (and/or subconsciously) hitting their notes on different parts of the beat to increase this effect. In this type of scenario there really isn’t any substitution for practice and “feel”, a metronome would never get you there. In ter…

It’s called “swing”, right?

Re: How to Learn Piano with Technology

#49

These sorts of tools are definitely useful, especially for those that otherwise wouldn't have access to music instruction. But there would be huge pieces missing: teaching musicianship (perfect accuracy is a bad thing), finding repertoire to engage the student, arranging performance opportunities... Basically, I think these tools replace bad piano teachers. Of course, there are a lot of bad piano teachers out there (…

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Re: How to Learn Piano with Technology

#50
Interesting!

The piano is one of the hardest instruments to learn to play and play well especially compared to the guitar. I could teach anyone to play the guitar in a few sittings especially one with only three strings. Add more strings as the student progresses and in a few months or less they will know how to play rhythm guitar minus bar chords.

It took me years of sitting and playing daily to become a proficient player.

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