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Facebook rolls out job posts to become the blue-collar LinkedIn

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Re: Facebook rolls out job posts to become the blue-collar LinkedIn

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Post by whatshisface »

EpicEng wrote: post #8
whatshisface wrote: post #4

There's some who argue that having all of your life in one place, recorded, won't be a problem because society will be forced to shift in a more liberal direction and stop judging people. The alternative outcome is that this forces a hard crystallization around various very specific cultures, where for every community there's a list of "weird stuff that everyone does," and "stuff that gets you ostracized." So for exa…

>society will be forced to shift in a more liberal direction and stop judging people Really? This hasn't been my experience at all. FB can be just as toxic as e.g. a youtube comment section, and what I see more often than not is people self selecting based on who agrees with them nearly 100% of the time.

Right, but the theory (which I'm arguing against, see above), is that if economic rewards are grafted on to the social side then people will become more open so that they can become more economically successful. Youtube comments and today's FB aren't economic - there are few incentives against bubbling yourself beyond personal gratification.

Re: Facebook rolls out job posts to become the blue-collar LinkedIn

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Post by thisisit »

> Meanwhile, job seekers can discover openings, auto-fill applications with their Facebook profile information

And soon we will need discussion on how a job seeker is being shunned at a workplace for his/her personal views which came bundled with these auto-fill forms.

I can be wrong but whenever I read stuff like these it seems to me companies, specially social networking, are running out of ideas and just scraping the bottom of the barrel for ideas.

Re: Facebook rolls out job posts to become the blue-collar LinkedIn

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Post by adjkant »

thisisit wrote: post #12

> Meanwhile, job seekers can discover openings, auto-fill applications with their Facebook profile information And soon we will need discussion on how a job seeker is being shunned at a workplace for his/her personal views which came bundled with these auto-fill forms. I can be wrong but whenever I read stuff like these it seems to me companies, specially social networking, are running out of ideas and just scraping…

Agreed. Facebook has a ton of engineers sitting around (not designers, engineers). Only so many can data mine and work on advertising, so some portion of them will look around and decide "what if we just add in random feature x from other thing y!" and eventually some get approval. It's really nonsensical from a user perspective. I can't imagine what user would ask for this.

And because of the scale of Facebook, there's no penalty for this not working out. So they will just keep pushing random features and will see what sticks. See stories, their AI chatbot assistant in messenger, and I suspect this will suffer the same fate.

Re: Facebook rolls out job posts to become the blue-collar LinkedIn

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Post by deftnerd »

No... Just no! Facebook crawls into every portion of our lives. I killed my account because of its insidious feature creep.

You don't put up photos of yourself in a swimsuit at work and would sue any workplace that demanded that you show them those pictures.

You shouldn't bring your political beliefs into work, and would be uncomfortable if your boss cornered you and demanded to know how you felt about the president or some tax policy.

But, this is content that is often on your Facebook page. By moving employeer/applicant relationships onto Facebook, it's associating applicants personal lives into the sphere of employer consideration.

It's wrong and I hope that nobody takes this seriously.

Re: Facebook rolls out job posts to become the blue-collar LinkedIn

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

A few months ago I turned off Facebook notifications on my phone. Then I turned off Messenger notifications. I recently deleted the Facebook app. A month ago, the Messenger app moved to page two. Two weeks ago I deleted both from my phone (still have WhatsApp) and force myself to log out when I visit on my laptop.

I'm not sure this is the level of disconnection I'll remain at. (Maybe only in election years.) I do think it's a gentle enough curve that everyone should try it.

When I ask friends whom, among Facebook, Apple, Google, Netflix and Amazon, they trust most, the results are heterogenous. When I ask whom they trust least, it's universally Facebook. If you don't trust someone, they may not have your best interests at heart; keeping them close is like holding on to a toxic friend.

Re: Facebook rolls out job posts to become the blue-collar LinkedIn

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Post by mr_tristan »

Great, now it's just a matter of time until recruiters start trying to contact me via FB. In which case... that will be the end of my FB usage.

In less snarky terms, spam is the bane of nearly every "jobs" site I've ever seen. Since FB attracts such a wide net, i.e., not very technical and skilled folks, it will be a significant challenge to make any kind of jobs/careers feature not turn into a noise-fest as they grow it. I wish them luck.

Re: Facebook rolls out job posts to become the blue-collar LinkedIn

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Post by jiojfekjl »

whatshisface wrote: post #4

There's some who argue that having all of your life in one place, recorded, won't be a problem because society will be forced to shift in a more liberal direction and stop judging people. The alternative outcome is that this forces a hard crystallization around various very specific cultures, where for every community there's a list of "weird stuff that everyone does," and "stuff that gets you ostracized." So for exa…

"There's some who argue"

Let's be clear about who.

Who is arguing that people need separate identities for work, family, and friends? Sociologists

Who is arguing that having a single identity will make society more open? Mark Zuckerberg.

Source: https://boingboing.net/2018/01/22/facebook-is-sad.html

Re: Facebook rolls out job posts to become the blue-collar LinkedIn

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Post by jrimbault »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #16

A few months ago I turned off Facebook notifications on my phone. Then I turned off Messenger notifications. I recently deleted the Facebook app. A month ago, the Messenger app moved to page two. Two weeks ago I deleted both from my phone (still have WhatsApp) and force myself to log out when I visit on my laptop. I'm not sure this is the level of disconnection I'll remain at. (Maybe only in election years.) I do thi…

On the meta subject of notifications: I've disabled all sounds and vibrations of my personal phone and I make frequent use of the snooze functions (either app level or os level). I feel like it's also good starting point.

Re: Facebook rolls out job posts to become the blue-collar LinkedIn

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

deftnerd wrote: post #14

No... Just no! Facebook crawls into every portion of our lives. I killed my account because of its insidious feature creep. You don't put up photos of yourself in a swimsuit at work and would sue any workplace that demanded that you show them those pictures. You shouldn't bring your political beliefs into work, and would be uncomfortable if your boss cornered you and demanded to know how you felt about the president…

> It's wrong and I hope that nobody takes this seriously

It's wrong and I hope people take that seriously.

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