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Kind reminder: please (re)read the HN guidelines

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Re: Kind reminder: please (re)read the HN guidelines

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Post by 10ren »

jng wrote: post #30
Vivtek wrote: post #10

I'm pleased to see that I am officially allowed to complain that HNN is getting to be just like Reddit.

Hacker News is starting to feel like programming.reddit.com a year ago. Now, Reddit is getting more and more like Digg a year before that. Digg certainly looks like Youtube comments one year before. Now, Youtube, that surely is now just like Myspace some time before. And Myspace now is somewhere close to what the AOL forums used to be. But AOL - don't look at the AOL forums! they now look as bad as Usenet did when ev…

Youtube is improving.

They have votes now. I've seen a few insightful comments there (it depends on what kind of video you're looking at, of course - you being the crucial word here.)

Re: Kind reminder: please (re)read the HN guidelines

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Post by sasare »

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Re: Kind reminder: please (re)read the HN guidelines

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Post by lobo-tuerto »

swombat wrote: post #7

Yes, yes, HN is going to the dogs, it's not as good as it used to be, it's all because of the new users, and so on and so on. It's been like that since I joined two and a half years ago.

It reminds me of the famous "Wear sunscreen" video :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=MX&v=0CVB8YSOLK4

Re: Kind reminder: please (re)read the HN guidelines

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Post by sasare »

swombat wrote: post #7

Yes, yes, HN is going to the dogs, it's not as good as it used to be, it's all because of the new users, and so on and so on. It's been like that since I joined two and a half years ago.

why? I love this , So does My boyfriend .he is almost­ 11year older than me .i met him via agegap love­ ``.c`o`m` a nice place for seeking age le ss love.which­ gives you a chance to make your life better and open­ opportunities for you to meet the attractive young­ girls and treat you like a king. Maybe you wanna check­ it out or tell your friends.. Just love it

Re: Kind reminder: please (re)read the HN guidelines

#117

Post by daychilde »

10ren wrote: post #111
jng wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hacker News is starting to feel like programming.reddit.com a year ago. Now, Reddit is getting more and more like Digg a year before that. Digg certainly looks like Youtube comments one year before. Now, Youtube, that surely is now just like Myspace some time before. And Myspace now is somewhere close to what the AOL forums used to be. But AOL - don't look at the AOL forums! they now look as bad as Usenet did when ev…

Youtube is improving. They have votes now. I've seen a few insightful comments there (it depends on what kind of video you're looking at, of course - you being the crucial word here.)

A million monkeys banging on typewriters occasionally produce insightful comments by sheer random chance.

They still produce more insightful comments than Youtube commenters.

Re: Kind reminder: please (re)read the HN guidelines

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Post by jurjenh »

edw519 wrote: post #45
swombat wrote: post #7

Yes, yes, HN is going to the dogs, it's not as good as it used to be, it's all because of the new users, and so on and so on. It's been like that since I joined two and a half years ago.

Right on, swombat. Last year, upon Iteration 27 of this same subject, I threw something like this together in jest: Quality of HN Comments Over Time | . . | . . q| . . . . u| . . . . . . a| . . . . . l| . . . . . i| . . . . . t| . . . you are here -->. . y| (that's all) |________________________________________________________ M J J A S O N D J F M A M J J A S O N D J F M A M J J A '09 '10 I must have been on to some…

Wouldn't it be nice if we could actually keep track of the quality by some measure and thus validate your model? Things said in jest are often true, and I think you actually have a valid model.

It would be interesting to have some live feedback on the current quality level, and see if that affects the response of the community, but this would require some sort of metrics on quality, which is quite a subjective field.

I believe a while ago there was a submission about parsing text to see whether the author was male or female, and wonder if there is a similar algorithm to check whether a comment is positive or negative, technical or shallow and thus create some objective measure of quality.

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#119

Post by Vivtek »

jjcm wrote: post #39
Vivtek wrote: post #10

I'm pleased to see that I am officially allowed to complain that HNN is getting to be just like Reddit.

As someone who was previously a reddit guy (although I found out about HN via irc), I'll do my best to make sure that I don't contribute to the change. I came to HN because I liked the culture and the discussion here; changing that culture and discussion would defeat the purpose of coming here. Thanks to all you HN oldtimers (in internet-years) for creating and contributing to what HN is today (and hopefully will be…

Don't worry. The point is there's no change.

Re: Kind reminder: please (re)read the HN guidelines

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Post by binspace »

invisible wrote: post #102
bpyne wrote: post #32

As long as someone has opened up a guideline discussion.... "Resist complaining about being downmodded. It never does any good, and it makes boring reading." Agreed in full. However, downmodding without constructive criticism leaves the downmodded with no sense of what to improve in the next comment. A downmod could easily be due to underdeveloped point, style, or disagreement about an opinion. At least 2 of the 3 re…

I think if a post goes -1, anyone else downmodding should have to reply to be allowed to downmod them again. I am all for the karma system, but I have had situations where people misinterpret what I am saying and after requesting a "why," I find out changing one word makes people understand to the point of me not being negative. (And burying a dissenting opinion for no reason should need a defense.)

A tag feedback is more gratifying to the person getting downvoted. That person is less likely to be upset and produce a "boring discussion".
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