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Chinese capital dangles carrots to lure foreign talent to its Silicon Valley

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Re: Chinese capital dangles carrots to lure foreign talent to its Silicon Valley

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

They were probably former Chinese citizens or Chinese descendants. China is open to immigration for Han people; e.g. during the HK handover all Han living there were granted Chinese citizenship while all non-Han were not, leading to some HK residents without citizenship in any country.

How do you establish Han-ness today, an ever shifting concept?

It’s usually on your ID card and assigned at birth.

Re: Chinese capital dangles carrots to lure foreign talent to its Silicon Valley

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post #44

No.1 SMOG SMOG SMOG No.2 No google available Bring ten foreign maids won't fix that. I'll just pass.

About the smog, i'm in shanghai right now, and i can tell you that the air is far less polluted than Paris, France. It's actually quite weird, because i thought the exact same thing as you regarding smog, i thought i would have to wear a mask for the duration of my trip. I was amazed at the number of electrical vehicle here (not a single motorcycle running on gas).

Note that it may be due to the chinese new year holidays (although it's been over for two weeks now), or to the price of real estate that rose to such a level that nobody can live downtown anymore... I'm not sure the reason, but i was really really surprised.

Re: Chinese capital dangles carrots to lure foreign talent to its Silicon Valley

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post #49
post #6

Maybe, once Wikipedia and Gmail are available full scale.

Honestly, the blocking doesn't make any kind of sense. You can literally create a vpn from within china itself on any cloud provider and surf on anything you want, in less than 10 minutes using softwares like algovpn. It's now a moment of truth for internet in china : either they start blocking vpns for real (although good luck doing that without collateral damage to the economy, because that would mean shutting down…

It's a matter of principle. Also, unacceptable if you can be prosecuted for posting stuff.

Re: Chinese capital dangles carrots to lure foreign talent to its Silicon Valley

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post #52
post #44

No.1 SMOG SMOG SMOG No.2 No google available Bring ten foreign maids won't fix that. I'll just pass.

About the smog, i'm in shanghai right now, and i can tell you that the air is far less polluted than Paris, France. It's actually quite weird, because i thought the exact same thing as you regarding smog, i thought i would have to wear a mask for the duration of my trip. I was amazed at the number of electrical vehicle here (not a single motorcycle running on gas). Note that it may be due to the chinese new year holi…

The city should be almost deserted during CNY. But right now at the moment of this post, Shanghai is worse than Paris:

https://aqicn.org/city/shanghai/ (95)

http://aqicn.org/city/paris/ (66)

Re: Chinese capital dangles carrots to lure foreign talent to its Silicon Valley

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post #4

US-biased headline. This is what US-tech firms have been doing for years, dangling carrots on foreign talent. The same reason why the US VC-lobby has been up in arms on anything and everything work visas related. China is the new USA.

Would you rather China, now on its way to being led by a dictator no different than a Mugabe-like figure in Africa, gain this talent to be used to bolster state run entitities — you know they’ll use any foreign tech developed on Chinese soil for government purposes — or let a relatively less corrupt, much freer government like the USA bring this talent over to build industry in the states where people are much more f…

I'm not exactly a fan of Xi, but theres some serious racial overtones in that little screed my friend. China has been an autocratic state for decades, Xi didn't reinvent the wheel here, and, also, while Mugabe sucked, his perception in the west was more than a little colored by racism. This is an excellent discussion, by a renowned South Asian intellectual who was driven out of Africa by no less than Idi Amin.

https://www.lrb.co.uk/v30/n23/mahmood-mamdani/lessons-of-zim...

Re: Chinese capital dangles carrots to lure foreign talent to its Silicon Valley

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post #4

US-biased headline. This is what US-tech firms have been doing for years, dangling carrots on foreign talent. The same reason why the US VC-lobby has been up in arms on anything and everything work visas related. China is the new USA.

Why is it a US biased article? China has been doing this for years also, just not very well. I still think they aren’t doing very well in this area, especially since they make immigration or at least permanent residence so impossible, but other issues related to child education costs and environment make it difficult to live and work in china long term.

The language is pretty poor - "bait" "lure" etc. They might as well have written ITS A TRAP.

As I read it, I felt enough spin to not fully trust the point about maids at the end. Was it cherry picked item from a whole slew of legal relaxations for its shame value or is it really an isolated, important and notable act presented dispassionately? I can't tell.

Re: Chinese capital dangles carrots to lure foreign talent to its Silicon Valley

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post #12

The Beijing municipality has said it will even consider allowing foreign professionals to bring in their own foreign maids, currently illegal in Beijing. Well shit, sign me up.

Yes I cant see that being a thing for 99% of the potential western candidates unless they are targeting the ME and India

Re: Chinese capital dangles carrots to lure foreign talent to its Silicon Valley

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post #49
post #6

Maybe, once Wikipedia and Gmail are available full scale.

Honestly, the blocking doesn't make any kind of sense. You can literally create a vpn from within china itself on any cloud provider and surf on anything you want, in less than 10 minutes using softwares like algovpn. It's now a moment of truth for internet in china : either they start blocking vpns for real (although good luck doing that without collateral damage to the economy, because that would mean shutting down…

The overwhelming number 1 priority of the Chinese Communist party is to remain in power and remain in control. Everything comes second place to that. Economically it would make sense to do what you say, but to do so would be an unacceptable loss of control over the ability to monitor and curtail communication in China, so they won't do it.

Additionally, they do certainly have the ability to detect and shutdown VPN's based on traffic analysis, for the most part they don't do this most of the time but during specific sensitive political events they can and will.

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