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Austin, Denver, Detroit: Good Places to Be a Software Engineer Looking for a Job

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Re: Austin, Denver, Detroit: Good Places to Be a Software Engineer Looking for a Job

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Sounds great, honestly. I do program in my spare time, but I don't play video games, or board games; I don't care about comic-book movies; I'm not interested in prognosticating about cryptocurrencies; I don't think repetitive "sportsball" jokes are funny; and I really, really don't care about the specs of your new drone, tablet, phone, etc. It's nice having programmer co-workers who like to talk about almost anything…

It's funny to me that OP was basically lamenting that there are normal people who happen to be programmers in Denver. Isn't the nerd culture dominant in software frequently cited as part of the reason women drop out of the industry at higher rates than men?

Sorry, no, that is not what I was saying at all. I also do not appreciate that logical leap you tried to impose.

Re: Austin, Denver, Detroit: Good Places to Be a Software Engineer Looking for a Job

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Feel free to move to Denver :-) Just remember you were warned. I only lived there about 25 years. Trust me I am not talking just coworkers. People in Texas are in general more friendly. You will notice these things if you move around like I have.

Warned about what? You didn't answer his questions or explain what you meant.

Yeah I'm not getting into that debate on an internet forum.

Re: Austin, Denver, Detroit: Good Places to Be a Software Engineer Looking for a Job

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EX Denver developer here. Colorado Native. Now an Austin Dev (I'm a senior / lead android dev) I can safely say that the job market in Denver is terrible. Yes you can find work, but the company culture are terrible. I found myself with brogrammers that had 0 engineering style hobbies or being asked to work 60 hours every week. There are a few gems.. But the Jobs you want, aren't hiring mobile devs because their offic…

I work in Broomfield. Used to live in DC. My company is nerd to the core in the right way. Hate the brogrammer crap. We regularly host tournaments for obscure board games, people hack on crazy languages like Haskell and elm for fun, and add to that the company wide obsession with rock climbing. I love it. But some of the shops I've seen sound like what you described. I heard spotx is a bunch of brogrammers for instan…

I love how crazy everyone got and how very far off the mark I went. Hah half of them are telling me, a power lifter who works out 4 days a week how I must hate people who are into sports and athletics. I should have been more explicit. Sounds like you have a great crew! it's just a pattern I've noticed. Having worked in 3 states. Culture is a real thing. There can be pockets. I think the culture is MUCH worse in Denver, than Broomfield, boulder, fort collins.

Re: Austin, Denver, Detroit: Good Places to Be a Software Engineer Looking for a Job

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EX Denver developer here. Colorado Native. Now an Austin Dev (I'm a senior / lead android dev) I can safely say that the job market in Denver is terrible. Yes you can find work, but the company culture are terrible. I found myself with brogrammers that had 0 engineering style hobbies or being asked to work 60 hours every week. There are a few gems.. But the Jobs you want, aren't hiring mobile devs because their offic…

To get all my disclaimers out of the way: I don't live in the Denver area anymore (moved for family obligations). I'm an Ops / systems / network person foremost, not a developer. And I'm not responding to the OP directly, just posting my own experiences jumping off from their points. I loved living and working in CO, and am passively looking to move back there if the right situation comes up. Anyone trying to compare…

Some people love it. My dad is obsessed with it despite being from Texas. It's unfortunate that the responses and strong opinions took away from the points I was trying to make.

I will also say I've worked with mostly young people. IE an old guy was a manager in his mid 30s.

I will also note, as someone who has worked at dino companies. That is not a reflection of the engineers. It's how the day to day works. How painfully slow work is because 3 departments need to get their act together. I'm sorry you took that as me saying your friends are bad.

Re: Austin, Denver, Detroit: Good Places to Be a Software Engineer Looking for a Job

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Feel free to move to Denver :-) Just remember you were warned. I only lived there about 25 years. Trust me I am not talking just coworkers. People in Texas are in general more friendly. You will notice these things if you move around like I have.

I heart Austin. Happiest place I've ever lived as a techie. Hope to return.

Why you leave?!

Re: Austin, Denver, Detroit: Good Places to Be a Software Engineer Looking for a Job

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Sounds great, honestly. I do program in my spare time, but I don't play video games, or board games; I don't care about comic-book movies; I'm not interested in prognosticating about cryptocurrencies; I don't think repetitive "sportsball" jokes are funny; and I really, really don't care about the specs of your new drone, tablet, phone, etc. It's nice having programmer co-workers who like to talk about almost anything…

You like well rounded people. You do not understand the term. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brogrammer Interesting well rounded people are cool. Being a sterotypical frat boy is not.

I understand the term to refer to something that's more or less a reactionary myth. There are no "brogrammers." They don't exist. It's an idiotic, reactionary term, best forgotten.

Re: Austin, Denver, Detroit: Good Places to Be a Software Engineer Looking for a Job

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I can interview.

You know Android?

Yeah, I do. I'm graduating college this semester though, so I don't know if you're looking for someone that Junior.

Re: Austin, Denver, Detroit: Good Places to Be a Software Engineer Looking for a Job

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You like well rounded people. You do not understand the term. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brogrammer Interesting well rounded people are cool. Being a sterotypical frat boy is not.

I understand the term to refer to something that's more or less a reactionary myth. There are no "brogrammers." They don't exist. It's an idiotic, reactionary term, best forgotten.

Okay then.

Re: Austin, Denver, Detroit: Good Places to Be a Software Engineer Looking for a Job

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Android devs. We can find iOS easily. No one wants to do Android. Seems weird given that android is OS. But I live in Austin now, not Denver. Denver is terrible.

> Android devs. We can find iOS easily. No one wants to do Android. Seems weird given that android is OS. Having done both, Android development is a pain and just not fun. The simulator/emulator situation has improved a lot which helps, but it used to be a terrible development experience.

Yeahhhh. Heck just trying to do UI or integration tests are a pain. Not to mention the things I do to match the iOS animations my counter part got for free.

Re: Austin, Denver, Detroit: Good Places to Be a Software Engineer Looking for a Job

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How's the pay in austin?

Low. About 100-120k for senior level.

In Austin you can get anywhere from 100k to 160k. For instance I know for a fact that Amazon pays mobile devs in austin 160k. That said, this isn't san fran. you can own a house for a quarter of a san fran condo's bathroom. I was making more at my colorado job, but I feel like I have a lot more money here.
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