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Tech takes over: New York is the sector's second city

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Re: Tech takes over: New York is the sector's second city

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Post by mdolon »

rch wrote: post #39
cddotdotslash wrote: post #5

The best part about tech in NYC is that it isn't a non-stop, in-your-face bubble the way that it is in SF/SJ. I work in tech but enjoy having friends in fashion, finance, real estate, advertising, etc. The conversations here are much more diverse. Interestingly, that same diversity helps improve the tech sector.

Agreed. Although I did miss meeting engineers from other disciplines (EE, Mechanical, Chem. E., etc). I'm not sure if they are simply scarce in Manhattan, or if I was in the wrong places.

There are a ton of tech meetups in the city, check them out. https://www.meetup.com/find/tech/?allMeetups=false&radius=5&...

Re: Tech takes over: New York is the sector's second city

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Post by perfmode »

hullo wrote: post #12
jimmy1 wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

High stress, high pollution, rat race of a lifestyle, you are regulated and taxed on more things you even thought possible, and one of the worst imaginable places to try and raise a family. It has it's pros and cons, but I think we both agree it is certainly better than Silicon Valley. It's great if you are a young professional figuring out the world, but eventually people want their space and be able to stretch out…

I am a tech worker raising my family in Brooklyn and it's quite lovely. Expensive, yes, but lovely. Whether you find it a "rat race" of a lifestyle or not is much more dependent on your internal psychology than the city itself.

Last year, I left Menlo Park and moved to Brooklyn. No regrets.

Re: Tech takes over: New York is the sector's second city

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Post by JustAnotherPat »

chimeracoder wrote: post #38
jimmy1 wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

High stress, high pollution, rat race of a lifestyle, you are regulated and taxed on more things you even thought possible, and one of the worst imaginable places to try and raise a family. It has it's pros and cons, but I think we both agree it is certainly better than Silicon Valley. It's great if you are a young professional figuring out the world, but eventually people want their space and be able to stretch out…

> High stress, high pollution, rat race of a lifestyle, you are regulated and taxed on more things you even thought possible New York has incredibly low pollution compared to other cities of comparable size, especially in the US. As for "regulated and taxed on more things than you even thought possible"... are you sure you're not thinking of California?

Overall air quality is pretty good in NYC, but street level pollution is nasty. There isn't a day that I don't get huge whiffs of diesel exhaust or a weekend that i don't have to clean off black grime from my windows. Happens less so in cities where you're not surrounded by walls of buildings and heavy street traffic.

I think the air quality in in the city is only good because it gets quickly blown out to sea.

Re: Tech takes over: New York is the sector's second city

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Post by stevepike »

JustAnotherPat wrote: post #22
load_balancer wrote: post #13

I really want to move to NYC. As a full stack developer in SF I only get interest from companies in the Bay Area. All my NYC applications get no response even if it's the same resume with locations removed. Am I missing something? Can someone who has mde a similar move cue me in? I have 4 years of full stack experience. Do people tailor their resume for NYC companies?

NYC has a lot of java based jobs. Some python, very few ruby ones (compared to the Bay Area at least). It isn't so easy finding certain types of jobs in NYC.

To chime in from the employers perspective, we've found it hard to find full-stack web developers in NYC with more than a years' experience in a dynamic language (we use ruby, but are happy to train people on the specific stack). There's a lot of talent at the recent boot camp grad level and experienced folks in finance. Would love any tips on attracting solid mid-senior talent in NYC.

Re: Tech takes over: New York is the sector's second city

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Post by rch »

mdolon wrote: post #51
rch wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed. Although I did miss meeting engineers from other disciplines (EE, Mechanical, Chem. E., etc). I'm not sure if they are simply scarce in Manhattan, or if I was in the wrong places.

There are a ton of tech meetups in the city, check them out. https://www.meetup.com/find/tech/?allMeetups=false&radius=5&...

I did, and they were fine. Still no aerospace engineers or plasma physicists (for example).

Re: Tech takes over: New York is the sector's second city

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Post by erubin »

seanmcdirmid wrote: post #40
CodeSheikh wrote: post #2

I am not surprised to read this and also not sure what makes this article/publisher the assumed authority to christened NYC as #2. After Silicon Valley one might argue that Seattle has better tech than NYC but again NYC always has breadth and depth of diverse markets such finance, fashion, ads, hotel, food, law and education to name a few. Not to mention, easy access to EWR/JFK/LGA airports from European continent ma…

Seattle has better connections to Asia, given the way planes travel it is closer to Beijing, Tokyo, Seoul than any other major American city besides anchorage.

Unlike Anchorage you can actually fly to those places straight from Seattle as a commercial passenger.

Re: Tech takes over: New York is the sector's second city

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Post by mdolon »

elefanten wrote: post #37
cddotdotslash wrote: post #5

The best part about tech in NYC is that it isn't a non-stop, in-your-face bubble the way that it is in SF/SJ. I work in tech but enjoy having friends in fashion, finance, real estate, advertising, etc. The conversations here are much more diverse. Interestingly, that same diversity helps improve the tech sector.

Sounds like something of your own making. Actual tech employees in the Bay Area are still an overwhelming minority of people. Yes, tech is more of a minority in NY and NY is more of a hub for other industries. But if you only hung out with tech employees in SF, that was a bubble of your own creation.

Having lived in both SOMA and the Mission, I wholeheartedly disagree. The vast majority of people I met at coffee shops, restaurants or bars in the city worked in tech.

Living in Manhattan (East Village) and Brooklyn provided a completely different experience. It was a rare to meet people who work in tech.

In both circumstances, I haven't been going out of my way to try to meet people in any specific industry.

Re: Tech takes over: New York is the sector's second city

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Post by yanslookup »

caiob wrote: post #28

> On Wall Street, new computer engineers get hired at $120,000, but senior managers can make $400,000 plus the bonuses Wall Street hands out every winter This always bums me out. Why do managers make so much more money than engineers?

A group of 5 engineers, left to their own devices, would probably produce about $100k worth of value. An effective manager can extract two million dollars worth of value out of those same 5 engineers.

If you don't believe this, you may have never had a great manager.

Re: Tech takes over: New York is the sector's second city

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Post by humanrebar »

JustAnotherPat wrote: post #4
jdlyga wrote: post #3

Cheaper rent than Silicon Valley, tons of cultural diversity, and amazing food. Really nice place to live.

NYC is actually amongst the lowest for Cost of Living adjusted salaries out of all the major tech cities: https://hired.com/state-of-salaries-2017 Rent isn't exactly cheap in NYC

The problem with these numbers is that adjusting an entire salary for cost of living only makes sense for people living paycheck to paycheck. The real question is how much wealth a tech worker can accumulate in each city. If you're saving 10% a year no matter where you live, you're best optimizing for salary and ignoring cost of living.
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