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What is happening in the Arctic is now beyond words, so here are the pictures

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Re: What is happening in the Arctic is now beyond words, so here are the pictures

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Updated data on the second chart for 2018: http://ocean.dmi.dk/arctic/meant80n.uk.php

Such an outlier is not completely unprecedented it looks like from his chart, but only if it immediately and rapidly corrects downwards in the coming days...

Re: What is happening in the Arctic is now beyond words, so here are the pictures

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next the tundra melts and releases an insane amount of methane. we are so screwed.

It seems like we keep discovering new positive feedback loops for global warming. Less ice means less reflection. Warmer arctic means more methane from permafrost. Desertification means less carbon capture. There was a recent article in Scientific American about likely changes in cloud formation from AGW. Some clouds reflect sun (cooling), while others trap heat (warming). Guess which are likely to increase?

I doubt humans will go extinct, but yeah... we're screwed.

Re: What is happening in the Arctic is now beyond words, so here are the pictures

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and anybody owning stock in companies that insure those properties....

As Americans, we're all on the hook for it. https://www.fema.gov/national-flood-insurance-program https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/04/business/a-broke-and-brok... "The government-run National Flood Insurance Program is, for now, virtually the only source of flood insurance for more than five million households in the United States. This hurricane season, as tens of thousands of Americans seek compensation for storm-in…

And this is why American coasts are grossly over-developed-- the government undercuts private insurers who would charge a much higher market price.

Re: What is happening in the Arctic is now beyond words, so here are the pictures

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

As Americans, we're all on the hook for it. https://www.fema.gov/national-flood-insurance-program https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/04/business/a-broke-and-brok... "The government-run National Flood Insurance Program is, for now, virtually the only source of flood insurance for more than five million households in the United States. This hurricane season, as tens of thousands of Americans seek compensation for storm-in…

And this is why American coasts are grossly over-developed-- the government undercuts private insurers who would charge a much higher market price.

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Re: What is happening in the Arctic is now beyond words, so here are the pictures

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‪What industry is contributing to climate change the most? Where is a good place to find data on this?‬

See https://www.carbontracker.org/ and their 2014 report for some good information. The target audience is the financial sector, but its still readable if you are careful about the infographics.

https://www.carbontracker.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Unb...

Re: What is happening in the Arctic is now beyond words, so here are the pictures

#28

next the tundra melts and releases an insane amount of methane. we are so screwed.

It seems like we keep discovering new positive feedback loops for global warming. Less ice means less reflection. Warmer arctic means more methane from permafrost. Desertification means less carbon capture. There was a recent article in Scientific American about likely changes in cloud formation from AGW. Some clouds reflect sun (cooling), while others trap heat (warming). Guess which are likely to increase? I doubt…

Humans might not.

Human culture and civilisation might.

Re: What is happening in the Arctic is now beyond words, so here are the pictures

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‪What industry is contributing to climate change the most? Where is a good place to find data on this?‬

I host over 30TB of excellent climate date here: https://mirrors.sorengard.com/azimuth.

These datasets were collected from various government agencies as part of a larger collaboration with John Baez and a couple of other scientists from the Azimuth Climate Data Project: http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/azimuth_backup_project/

My server has a 1Gbps connection and can support sustained downloads of very large files. Unfortunately, the data isn’t well documented, but I’m working on improving that in the future. It’s organized roughly according to the agency it’s sourced from on a directory basis.

The archive includes datasets from NASA, NOAA, EPA, USGS, NCDC, CDC, EIA, FDA, USDA, DOE, and various subdepartments thereof.

Re: What is happening in the Arctic is now beyond words, so here are the pictures

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‪What industry is contributing to climate change the most? Where is a good place to find data on this?‬

I can't answer on where to best find this data, but it is compounded by many industries. Particularly, manufacturing and the transportation of raw materials that are transformed into products by other manufacturers and then distributed to distribution centers, and then again distributed to local regions and retailers. This, for every last little thing. If you want to talk just plastic bottles, we consume 1 million bottles a minute. In the summer, when working outside or when I used to work in smoldering hot factories, I would drink about 4 large sports drinks a day during an 8-12 hour shift (there were 2500+ employees and never shutdown). Now add just vehicle emissions. Everyone driving to and from work, or to buy all the things. You drive and purchase a banana. That banana probably traveled 2k-3k miles in fossil fuel powered transportation. It's a compounding problem, of all the things. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/trevornace...
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