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Email exchange between MIT Media Lab and the IOTA Foundation [pdf]

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Re: Email exchange between MIT Media Lab and the IOTA Foundation [pdf]

#101
I'm a person with no background in cryptography. I am in the tech industry however, so I can follow about 30% of the technical jargon that's going on. I read the entire thing. smh.

The whole thing started with someone finding something wrong with the 'Curl' wrapper around a packet that's being sent from A->B. Apparently, this violates a EU-CMA security protocol, and this is an issue. Lots of holes in my knowledge there, but I got the jist.

What I don't get, is HOW this became a bipartisan issue with HN/Reddit. Because if you read the 124 pages, it becomes clear that both the IOTA team, as well as the MIT team were bad at communicating with each other, the purpose of this bad communication is unknown, but both are at fault.

So we at HN look at some emails from IOTA and call out their unprofessional behavior, and Reddit does the same thing with MIT's team.

What if someone has no perspective of how these communications usually take place? It looks like (upon the assumption that IOTA's team member was indeed in an 'incomprehensible' state when he typed that email out) MIT's team member without a second warning, just went ahead with publishing the paper.

So what's the big mess? It's pretty clear that both parties messed by being sloppy at emailing each other.

Re: Email exchange between MIT Media Lab and the IOTA Foundation [pdf]

#103

This is full of little gems. Like: > We were just reached out to by a CoinDesk journalist that Ethan contacted in an attempt to rush out this publication. This may be the biggest scandal I have ever heard of from what has been portrayed as a professional 'responsible disclosure'. Ethan is clearly in complete conflict of interest and pushing this for his own gain, this is no longer about academic merits, but a despera…

> But, after devolving into a personal attack. They expect him to reply back a month later?

What are you talking about? Ethan went AWOL from the conversation long before this whole discussion came to an eventual end. The only one who was met with ire was Neha after the IOTA team realized they basically published right when they realized there was no vulnerability after all.

> But, any criticism of cryptocurrency devolves into either personal attacks or a know-all attitude which ensures not many people want to lend their expertise.

This whole exchange was completely civil up until the point DCI threw their weak hand cards on the table. Stop trying to paint IOTA in a bad light. After the release of these emails you'll just look like a complete moron.

Re: Email exchange between MIT Media Lab and the IOTA Foundation [pdf]

#105
post #22

> Hey Ethan, Did you receive the invite? We can also setup a chat with our ex-NSA post-Quantum hash function experts after we get the initial confusion out of the way. Best, David It is a great example of someone (the "expert") convincing a non-technical person that they are the "ninja rockstar 11x post-quantum hash function expert". I've seen this many times. Managers / owners don't have ability to assess who is an…

Wow, big revelation. The guy who wrote that isn't a mathematician or developer at IOTA. But sure, try and grasp for straws dude.

Re: Email exchange between MIT Media Lab and the IOTA Foundation [pdf]

#106
post #22

> Hey Ethan, Did you receive the invite? We can also setup a chat with our ex-NSA post-Quantum hash function experts after we get the initial confusion out of the way. Best, David It is a great example of someone (the "expert") convincing a non-technical person that they are the "ninja rockstar 11x post-quantum hash function expert". I've seen this many times. Managers / owners don't have ability to assess who is an…

>It is a great example of someone (the "expert") convincing a non-technical person that they are the "ninja rockstar 11x post-quantum hash function expert". It's hilarious that he thought that would work with a security researcher at MIT.

Sonstebo isn't a developer and the conversation continued well after this. What is your point.

Re: Email exchange between MIT Media Lab and the IOTA Foundation [pdf]

#107
post #98
post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

IOTA actually has status as an NGO in Germany which gives them a lot of credibility (clout?) and therefore companies are intrigued to start deals, but as an amateur cryptographer I must say that having hash derivatives leaking through your hash function [which has been known for a long time actually with IOTA!] is not the way to make a bulletproof currency. Coverups sadly don't make the protocol more robust, either,…

Don't take this as a source of truth, it's just my gut feeling, but: Germany is lacking behind in tech, and the country is putting lots of bets to their car industry, the Volkswagen scandal not helping there. Now there is this new thing called cryptocurrency and one of them comes from Berlin. I don't know is it just me, but it's not that hard to start speculating why these big German companies want to announce themse…

Eh, maybe, but I think IOTA has more to prove and more to gain by showing that they are associating with well established giants rather than the other way around. Besides, Switzerland is the place for Crypto now.

Re: Email exchange between MIT Media Lab and the IOTA Foundation [pdf]

#108
post #107
post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't take this as a source of truth, it's just my gut feeling, but: Germany is lacking behind in tech, and the country is putting lots of bets to their car industry, the Volkswagen scandal not helping there. Now there is this new thing called cryptocurrency and one of them comes from Berlin. I don't know is it just me, but it's not that hard to start speculating why these big German companies want to announce themse…

Eh, maybe, but I think IOTA has more to prove and more to gain by showing that they are associating with well established giants rather than the other way around. Besides, Switzerland is the place for Crypto now.

Again just speculation, but could it be that these announcements are boosted by the IOTA folks? That the giants are not that much into the tech, IOTA just using the attention to boost their value? These guys are rich and I really doubt they'll do anything more than spend quality time in their Florida penthouse.

Re: Email exchange between MIT Media Lab and the IOTA Foundation [pdf]

#109

Ah IOTA, the same ‘company’ that created a fake partnership with Microsoft to pump up their cryptocurrency price...

Good to see that's still the only broken argument you can muster up.

A completely new account with all comments defending IOTA. Hmm...

Re: Email exchange between MIT Media Lab and the IOTA Foundation [pdf]

#110
post #98
post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

IOTA actually has status as an NGO in Germany which gives them a lot of credibility (clout?) and therefore companies are intrigued to start deals, but as an amateur cryptographer I must say that having hash derivatives leaking through your hash function [which has been known for a long time actually with IOTA!] is not the way to make a bulletproof currency. Coverups sadly don't make the protocol more robust, either,…

Don't take this as a source of truth, it's just my gut feeling, but: Germany is lacking behind in tech, and the country is putting lots of bets to their car industry, the Volkswagen scandal not helping there. Now there is this new thing called cryptocurrency and one of them comes from Berlin. I don't know is it just me, but it's not that hard to start speculating why these big German companies want to announce themse…

Germany is trailing in shiny stupid tech like the ICO-of-the-day, but it is still on the forefront of boring tech like automation, machinery, industrial robotics and much more. Guess why China is buying so many "Mittelstand" companies in these fields?

Cars aren't everything.

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