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Re: IV Bags May Not Be Necessary to Rehydrate Patients

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Post by girzel » Thu, Feb 22, 2018, 11:42 PM UTC

masklinn wrote: post #101

J_Sherz wrote: post #80

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Perfect answer, relevant link for those that are interested: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC419333/

ORT is even recommended for cholera (to upgrade to IV on a case-by-case basis if necessary), that's about as bad as things can get dehydration wise.

One of the most amazing disease-related things I've ever read was something about cholera (of course I will never remember the original source), and the fact that it doesn't have to be fatal at all, so long as you rehydrate properly. Apparently in the vast majority of cases the body will fight off cholera just fine, so long as it doesn't run out of fluids in the meantime. If only people had known that they couldn't just drink plain water...

The (possibly apocryphal) article also went into modern educational efforts in rural India, where people were being taught the proper handfuls of sugar and salt to add to water, to combat cholera there.

Re: IV Bags May Not Be Necessary to Rehydrate Patients

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Post by davak » Fri, Feb 23, 2018, 11:23 AM UTC

taneq wrote: post #44

jcadam wrote: post #21

So that time back in my Army days when I collapsed from dehydration, I'm guessing the solution that was forced on me -- sit on this rock and chug two full canteens of plain water (no salt/sugar/electrolytes) -- was probably not the best idea?

> I'm guessing the solution that was forced on me [...] was probably not the best idea? Indeed, it wasn't a solution!

Underrated reply for the chemistry pun.

As a physician we do occasionally see folks die from hyponatremia (low salt) from overly correcting dehydration with water. It’s a terrible tragedy.

Re: IV Bags May Not Be Necessary to Rehydrate Patients

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Post by amluto » Sat, Feb 24, 2018, 1:29 AM UTC

dwyerm wrote: post #85

amluto wrote: post #68

You can buy approved oral rehydration powder pretty cheaply [1]. I keep it around for backpacking trips and such. Also, I've heard, but have not verified, that coconut water is a decent approximation. I'm not sure if this is true, but it's certainly delicious.

I second this. Because it keeps forever and is relatively small, I keep it around in the medicine cabinet. If you've ever had a guest lose a fight with a Norovirus, you appreciate having some of it right at hand. By the way, the Amazon product searches for this return a cesspool of magic woo. I recommend going to your local drug store, looking for the powdered Pedialyte, then looking in the meter-or-so surrounding th…

The trick is to search for "WHO" oral rehydration salts.

Re: IV Bags May Not Be Necessary to Rehydrate Patients

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Re: IV Bags May Not Be Necessary to Rehydrate Patients

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Post by kragen » Mon, Feb 26, 2018, 3:36 PM UTC

TheSpiceIsLife wrote: post #107

aidenn0 wrote: post #66

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Quick tip: for kids, you can make popsicles out of the solution, which will moderate the rate at which they drink it.

The salt won't freeze though?

Salt freezes at 801°. If the temperature is too high for the salt to freeze, it's way too high for the water or the salt–water eutectic to freeze. Also, you are going to have worse health problems than dehydration pretty quick.