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Post by slewis »

elmar wrote: post #322
Frondo wrote: post #311

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Ok, personally, I do care about the imbalance, and I strongly encourage my fellow techies to care, too. Why? Because when enough of us care, we can change the sandbox itself. None of this stuff is set in stone. Great that you're content with crumbs, but I'm not, and I certainly don't want to see the next generation of technicians laboring under the same conditions as so many of ours has done. I'll do my part to leave…

> Because when enough of us care, we can change the sandbox itself. no need to wait, you can change the sandbox right now, you can create your own startup and give equal ownership to everyone.

Equal ownership of something that’s likely to be zero.

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Post by cjalmeida »

pbhjpbhj wrote: post #332
cjalmeida wrote: post #212

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You could initially present a user some images to assess it's preferences and use some recommender system (collaborative filtering), a la Netflix. That could give you an starting point. But I believe the main issue is that fashion products have, by definition, short shelf life, so you can't run the algos on SKU data. Then you can use deep learning on product images + user categorical data to try to predict preference…

Seeing what people themselves like doesn't sound a good way to determine what fashion they'd buy. Fashion is about a consensus largely established by a cabal of sellers; users surely want to find out what is fashionable? Fashion is mainly about what other people like.

Oh, that's largely a myth. These seller do have some influence, but it's much less important than what they want you to perceived. Fashion tastes comes from a lot of sources and some is part of your identity.

That's part of what makes this industry hard.

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Post by joelrunyon »

nilsbunger wrote: post #133
joelrunyon wrote: post #36

Amazed there's still no good permission settings on nested folders in dropbox. Ran into this on a 4-5 year old project with multiple contributors and even on their paid versions, there's no good way to consolidate folders that have multiple "owners." Seems like there has to be a better way to handle this - Google Drive takes care of it much better.

Dropbox Business supports nested shared folders now. Source: I evangelized it and worked on it.

But from different sources, etc?

I have a whole bunch of folders over the past 3-4 years that are "owned" by different people that worked for me. I tried to get them all organized under one subfolder and it's not allowed.

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Post by TheKarateKid »

swampthinker wrote: post #348
sandworm101 wrote: post #333

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You are being fooled. Those meals and buses are to keep you at work. Anything other than cash only ties you more tightly to the company. Demand money, not better snacks at the company store.

Edit: Sorry, I shouldn't have said "you". I don't know your situation or how much you make, this is a very broad rant that is based off of previous discussions I've had. This has to be the most pretentious thing I read in a while. You get paid 6-figures with incredible benefits, while making 2-3x of what the median HOUSEHOLD in this country makes[1], with one of the highest average base salaries, and your individual…

You're failing to look at the situation in terms of perspective relative to the company - not society in general. Sandworm's point is that why should someone 2 levels above you be receiving 100x your salary?

Imagine you were at Thanksgiving dinner. Everyone gets a full plate of food, but you only get a quarter of a plate. Is that fair? Should you keep quiet since you're fortunately to have any food at all, rather than homeless on the street? It's all about relativity. Compare apples to apples.

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Post by nilsbunger »

joelrunyon wrote: post #354
nilsbunger wrote: post #133

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Dropbox Business supports nested shared folders now. Source: I evangelized it and worked on it.

But from different sources, etc? I have a whole bunch of folders over the past 3-4 years that are "owned" by different people that worked for me. I tried to get them all organized under one subfolder and it's not allowed.

Two options depending on what you’re looking to do:

1. If you just want to personally organize shared folders you receive, you can always put them in folders in your account.

2. If you’re trying to create a nested shared structure, that’s what dropbox biz does. You make your employees team members. The ownership issue becomes less tricky since the biz content is all “owned” by the biz.

As a dropbox alum, I’m not up to speed on all the latest nuances. You should chat with sales to see how it could work for you, or just try a trial.

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Post by bogomipz »

throwaway93192 wrote: post #247

I'll just point out that the SVP of engineering, a former Microsoft exec, received $34 million in compensation, since joining less than 6 months ago. For all employees that are considering joining a startup as rank-and-file engineers and putting in years of effort, remember that your compensation will be paltry compared to founders and top execs. When your work finally pays off, it will mostly pay off for them. Good…

>"I'll just point out that the SVP of engineering, a former Microsoft exec, received $34 million in compensation, since joining less than 6 months ago."

I am curious what contributions can a single executive make to a company that justify $34 million dollars in compensation?

More so what contributions did that individual make in less than 6 months that can justify this obscene level of compensation? Did they create 3x or 5x of this compensation in value?

Remember this the next time a recruiter at some startup tries to tell they offer options in lieu of cash because the company wants you "to have skin in the game."

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Post by cbr »

FireBeyond wrote: post #310
adventured wrote: post #303

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The average NBA player salary is $6 million per year. In the next few years all of the NBA players combined (~420 players) are set to make more in salary than all the S&P 500 CEOs earn in salary combined. Should top executives at $10 billion companies (7x the average value of an NBA team) receive compensation on par with professional athletes? How does that not make sense? The US will spend $10 billion per year compe…

How many of those $10B companies are actually really worth that, not just an inflated result of funding rounds. The 420 or so players in the NBA can largely be considered to be the best 420 players in the world. NBA teams also have a pretty high revenue to value ratio. Points to you too for ignoring that in many cases the salary of a Fortune 500 CEO is, in many to most cases a much smaller fraction of their compensat…

    How many of those $10B companies are actually really
    worth that, not just an inflated result of funding
    rounds?
The parent is talking about S&P 500 companies, which means publicly traded ones. The thing where private companies have inflated valuations [1][2] doesn't apply here.

[1] https://www.benkuhn.net/terms

[2] https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2955455

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Post by lsc »

sandworm101 wrote: post #333
lsc wrote: post #314

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>Great that you're content with crumbs, but I'm not, and I certainly don't want to see the next generation of technicians laboring under the same conditions as so many of ours has done. I'll do my part to leave the world a better place for my successors; not just the same status quo. What's the point of life otherwise? dude, I'm a silicon valley computer technician. I literally make 10x what the service people I see…

You are being fooled. Those meals and buses are to keep you at work. Anything other than cash only ties you more tightly to the company. Demand money, not better snacks at the company store.

> You are being fooled. Those meals and buses are to keep you at work. Anything other than cash only ties you more tightly to the company. Demand money, not better snacks at the company store.

I'm not being fooled. I totally understand the company's goal is to get more work out of me, but they are doing that in ways that make my life better, too. It's one of those situations where both parties to a trade come out better..

the food is really good, which means I don't waste time going across town (one of the unfortunate realities of most of silicon valley is that the homes, the food, and the offices almost always require driving to get between) - and dinner? well, again, I could drive more, or I could prepare food myself. Both are things I don't enjoy, that take a lot of time and that I'm not very good at. Employer provided food solve that problem, and saves me significant time. If they want some of that saved time? it still seems win win to me.

My employer providing good food makes my food situation almost as good as it would be if I lived in a real city with a good mix of offices and restaurants, and it gives me that without making me leave silicon valley (which has cultural and career conditions that suit me better than I think moving to new york would.)

The upshot is that if I get a job around here that doesn't give me three squares, I've gotta schedule another hour or so of effort into my day; effort that is as hard, for me as work, but where I'm not advancing my career or studying something I want to learn. Yes, my employer benefits a lot from giving me food... but I benefit, too.

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Post by uiri »

Kiro wrote: post #325

Where do all the new shares come from in an IPO?

Same place that they come from when doing an investment round with VCs - the corporation issues new shares and dilutes existing shareholders.
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