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Re: Regrets of the Dying

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What advice would you have given your 17 year old self? (I am 16)

Here are some things I wish I understood when I was 17: 1. Being "unique" doesn't mean trying to alienate everyone else. Many of the people that you meet, and who seem simple or uninteresting, have a great story to tell or a special talent to share. So, trying to "fit in" a little bit and getting to know lots of people doesn't make you a lesser person in any way; it makes you greater for the broader perspectives that…

"In 10 years you'll barely remember any of the message boards that are so important to you now."

I couldn't disagree more. The majority of my closest friendships and professional opportunities have come from time spent on the Internet. I'm probably an extreme case, but people "on the Internet" are no more real than people you meet face-to-face, and online friendships can and do turn into real-life friendships, and vice versa.

Re: Regrets of the Dying

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I guess it remains to be seen conclusively when I fall terminally ill or get close to death of old age, but in my mind, it is not possible to have a life without some kind of theoretical regrets. Every choice you make to spend every moment a certain way is necessarily mutually exclusive with spending it any other way, and there are only so many moments and so many things one can realistically do. I'm quite positively…

Usual meaning of regrets are things you really wanted to do at the time, had a chance to try, did not and didn't do anything else that was particularly exciting. Then felt a nagging about it your whole life, which only gets worse when you're out of time.

If you took an alternate path that made you happy, you probably won't have regrets. If your life was crappy, you will have regrets about lots of little things. But a good life means whatever regrets you have will be minor curiosities, not severe psychological problems.

Re: Regrets of the Dying

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I guess it remains to be seen conclusively when I fall terminally ill or get close to death of old age, but in my mind, it is not possible to have a life without some kind of theoretical regrets. Every choice you make to spend every moment a certain way is necessarily mutually exclusive with spending it any other way, and there are only so many moments and so many things one can realistically do. I'm quite positively…

It's not so much being satisfied that every choice you made in life is the best one, but, being satisfied with who you are today (on the whole), coming to understand that who you are is the sum of every choice you've made, every relationship you've entered into, and every experience you have had. Change anything in that chain, and you are somebody different.

As long as you haven't lived the life of Methuselah (nearly a thousand freakin' years to get on with something, and the only thing posterity has to say about him is that he had sons and daughters before he died[1]), as long as you've tried to participate in your own life and haven't found a reason to loathe who you are, then there is no room, really, for the what-ifs or the coulda-shouldas.

[1] I'm no Bible literalist (or believer, for that matter), but I think that was the point the writer was trying to get across as a moral lesson.

Re: Regrets of the Dying

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Sometimes I think that I might be one of the few people who will be on my deathbed, regretting not working harder.

When I look back on my life, it's mostly been unfinished projects, or good ideas that didn't get far.

I've always been told how much potential I have, and I even feel this in myself. But so far, there's not a lot to show for it. Sometimes I've spent years not doing much of anything except looking at sunsets, walking in parks, reading books, and being creative, and all the things that are supposed to make life wonderful. These idle years weren't all a bowl of cherries (mostly it was due to depression) but it still wasn't so different from the slow sort of lifestyle exalted above. And I still find it lacking.

We only have a limited time here, and in our age, individuals have extraordinary leverage. Isn't that also a reason to try as hard as we can to make some kind of dent in the universe? If I forgo a few sunsets, but make a thousand people's lives better, did I really do it wrong?

When it comes to regrets, the literary image that stays with me comes from Charles Dickens' A Christmas Carol. This part is usually omitted from popularizations and films. Marley's ghost has delivered the warning about the three spirits, but also shows him a vision of spirits wandering the earth:

The air was filled with phantoms, wandering hither and thither in restless haste, and moaning as they went. Every one of them wore chains like Marley's Ghost; some few (they might be guilty governments) were linked together; none were free. Many had been personally known to Scrooge in their lives. He had been quite familiar with one old ghost, in a white waistcoat, with a monstrous iron safe attached to its ankle, who cried piteously at being unable to assist a wretched woman with an infant, whom it saw below, upon a door-step. The misery with them all was, clearly, that they sought to interfere, for good, in human matters, and had lost the power for ever.

Re: Regrets of the Dying

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post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What advice would you have given your 17 year old self? (I am 16)

Here are some things I wish I understood when I was 17: 1. Being "unique" doesn't mean trying to alienate everyone else. Many of the people that you meet, and who seem simple or uninteresting, have a great story to tell or a special talent to share. So, trying to "fit in" a little bit and getting to know lots of people doesn't make you a lesser person in any way; it makes you greater for the broader perspectives that…

3. Do not talk yourself out of saying "hi" to that girl. You're missing out on a lot of fun, it won't hurt you, and the sooner you start practicing this the sooner you'll get the hang of it.

I agree, but I would extend it beyond "that girl" and say that it applies to anyone that you think seems interesting. Everyone craves human interaction and almost everyone has a story to tell. Don't be afraid to say hello.

Another bit I would add is to avoid high debt. This will be hard because our entire society is set up to take on debt in your college years and then pay it off once you get a good job afterward. I'm 26 now, and I have nearly $60K in debt. I have to pay a minimum of $1000 a month on those debts, while my rent, utilities, and other costs typically come in under $1000. If I didn't have debt, I could bartend 10 nights a month and make enough to live on. Instead, I work 40-50 hours a week in a tech job that I hate, leaving me thoroughly uninspired and unmotivated to do personal programming work once I get home.

My grandmother gave me similar advice and I didn't take it to heart. All I thought was, "I can work my butt off now at $5-8 an hour, or I can take on debt and pay it off after school when I'm making $50-70K per year." Your future self will be pretty annoyed at you if you use this same rationalization.

Re: Regrets of the Dying

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People

That's what a Geriatric doctor, I consider a friend, who saw many "humans" dying told friends & I once at a dinner I remember. When I said most of us when dying will regret things they did not achieve like a book, a business, a house, works of art, scientific discovery, something that we could be proud of. He said to me "hey, you may know better in your 30s, in my experience most people before they die they regret not things but other people; not having spend more time with their children, not having forgiven their father or mother, not having told them how much they loved them before they died...". I personally like that post but I think my doctor friend would say: "too many words".

I now have a little son and I do a startup, in both cases, I make effort to remember what this doctor friend told me, "one word,

People"

Re: Regrets of the Dying

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post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What advice would you have given your 17 year old self? (I am 16)

Here are some things I wish I understood when I was 17: 1. Being "unique" doesn't mean trying to alienate everyone else. Many of the people that you meet, and who seem simple or uninteresting, have a great story to tell or a special talent to share. So, trying to "fit in" a little bit and getting to know lots of people doesn't make you a lesser person in any way; it makes you greater for the broader perspectives that…

You'll be fine so long as you keep pushing yourself a little bit every day.

That is a great quote.

Re: Regrets of the Dying

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No one on their death bed ever said "I wish I'd spent more time alone with my computer." - D. Bunten (creator of M.U.L.E.)

Wait until the computing generation goes to death bed.

If the Kurzweilians have their way you will be waiting an infinitely long time.

Re: Regrets of the Dying

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post #28

Interesting - this was submitted nearly four weeks ago, and yet garnered no comments at all, and only one up-vote: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1570865

pg linked to it on Twitter yesterday which likely drew a lot of attention. twitter.com/paulg

He probably even read it here and then twitted it.

Re: Regrets of the Dying

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post #49

I have already posted this once in a similar thread, but thought I would post it again as it quite relevant to the article and others who have not seen it before may appreciate it: "Instantes" by Jorge Luis Borges: If I were able to live my life anew, In the next I would try to commit more errors. I would not try to be so perfect, I would relax more. I would be more foolish than I've been, In fact, I would take few t…

Sounds nice, but it's important to note that it's apocryphe, it was not written by JLB.

A note from Martin Hadis: http://www.internetaleph.com/detail/showdetail.asp?objtype=4...

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