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Re: Worst Roommate Ever

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Post by ygaf »

maaaats wrote: post #146
ben174 wrote: post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Owning multiple properties and renting them out isn't a right. Having a house to live in should be. I’m not sure I’m reading this correctly. You believe it should be a human right to have a home to live in? Every person is just given a free home? Who would build all these homes in this utopia?

That's a very non-charitable way of reading my statement, I believe you are very sure you're not reading it correctly. But yes, I do "believe it should be a human right to have a home to live in". Not given freely, but having the opportunity for housing. It's even in Article 25 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.

You believe in responsibility, but the tenants (OP's hypothetical ones) have failed the responsibility that got them into their housing. At that point, to allow the tenants to stay is giving them the home freely.

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Post by zdfjkhiuj »

simen wrote: post #23

It's crazy how people who were terrorized by this guy blame themselves for the fact that he turned out to be a murderer, and couldn't take the punishment. Must have been a master at gaslighting.

Most people aren't psychopaths. The man was crazy, but he was still a person and didn't deserve to die.

You should celebrate the fact that even people who he antagonized were upset by his death. Even if they reacted irrationally, at least they reacted at all.

Re: Worst Roommate Ever

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Post by nsxwolf »

mercer wrote: post #149
ben174 wrote: post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Owning multiple properties and renting them out isn't a right. Having a house to live in should be. I’m not sure I’m reading this correctly. You believe it should be a human right to have a home to live in? Every person is just given a free home? Who would build all these homes in this utopia?

Education for everyone? And (basic) universal health care? What kind of utopial nonsense is that!

Is there anything we should have to pay for?

Re: Worst Roommate Ever

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Post by nordsieck »

sillysaurus3 wrote: post #188
whack wrote: post #181

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I agree with you. In practice, if I had a roommate who was genuinely going through some difficulties and needed 1-2 months to get back on his feet, I would help that person out. What really disturbs me is people taking advantage of the law, acting like they are entitled to free housing, and not showing gratitude/remorse for the predicament they have put others into. That's the kind of person I would want to change lo…

Nah, it's more of... Nowadays, it seems like the problems in the world are increasing. Programmers are probably the most insulated from the effects, but even we are starting to feel them. On HN you'd get the impression everyone makes $300k and courts VCs, but the vast majority of the audience is more along the lines of mostly broke and quiet. I know because I've talked to them. In that context, it's very important fo…

> Very few people wouldn't be embarrassed to be an imposition on others

Your implication is that parasitic people have the same density among people who don't pay their rent as among the general population. This seems like an extraordinary claim in light of what we know about phenomenon like adverse selection.

Re: Worst Roommate Ever

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Post by banned1 »

cdancette wrote: post #148
ben174 wrote: post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Owning multiple properties and renting them out isn't a right. Having a house to live in should be. I’m not sure I’m reading this correctly. You believe it should be a human right to have a home to live in? Every person is just given a free home? Who would build all these homes in this utopia?

It's funny you mention this, because it is an actual right in France. People have a right to housing. That's why the government provides (or should provide more) shelter to homeless people. Do you believe that people do not have the right to have a shelter where to live, but only those who are rich enough to afford it ?

Who would provide such right?

Re: Worst Roommate Ever

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Post by EdgarVerona »

0x7f800000 wrote: post #5

One of the most important tools we have for social encounters like interviewing a stranger as a potential new roommate is our "gut" reaction, which is our hard-won evolutionary instincts warning us of potential danger -- warning that something is off about the person or their situation. Trust your gut.

I agree with your perspective in general: I think that often we underestimate the power of our intuitive reactions (particularly in the tech world, where we often embrace that platonic notion of rationality as a tool to suppress emotion and instinct rather than something working with it).

In this case, I do think it's difficult because these sorts of manipulators thrive on making a good first impression. But in general I think that we in the tech world undervalue our trained instincts.

Re: Worst Roommate Ever

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Post by logfromblammo »

maaaats wrote: post #146
ben174 wrote: post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Owning multiple properties and renting them out isn't a right. Having a house to live in should be. I’m not sure I’m reading this correctly. You believe it should be a human right to have a home to live in? Every person is just given a free home? Who would build all these homes in this utopia?

That's a very non-charitable way of reading my statement, I believe you are very sure you're not reading it correctly. But yes, I do "believe it should be a human right to have a home to live in". Not given freely, but having the opportunity for housing. It's even in Article 25 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.

I would phrase it more as "a human has the right to access any resources necessary to continue existing".

That includes having a place to be, and the means to acquire food, water, and medical treatment. At minimum, this would be in the form of subsistence farming, including medicinal crops. One person has the exclusive right to enough land surface area to meet all their own needs, the exact number depending on the local environmental factors.

When it is more advantageous to society at large to exclude would-be subsistence farmers from access to vital resources, it creates a duty for them to replace the products that the person would otherwise create from them. With economic specialization, this should be trivial. A thousand subsistence farms may be replaced by one industrial farm that can feed tens of thousands. It stands to reason that the industrial farmer should feed those prevented by law from farming for themselves, because if that person does not, the thousand will burn the law and take the land by force to feed themselves, and people elsewhere may starve. In the interest of preserving the benefit of economic specialization, which allows billions more of us to exist than the planet would otherwise support, those who benefit from owning property should share enough of that benefit with those who do not that they are not forced to rebel against property itself in order to survive.

The more specialized society becomes, the more critical it is that transfer of "unearned" benefits take place. Those benefits are the price that the winners must pay to the losers, for continuing to play by the rules of the game instead of cheating at it, or flipping over the game table and stomping on all the pieces.

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Post by Itaxpica »

ghaff wrote: post #178
subroutine wrote: post #74

Did anyone else read this paragraph wonder wtf really happened... "Bachman enrolled at Tulane University in the fall of 1975, but his time there was rocky and brief, ruptured by a horrific incident in January at the Sigma Chi house, just off campus. Although Bachman was not a member of the frat, he told Friedman he’d been hanging around the house with a friend from Elkins Park, a boy a year older named Ken Gutzeit. S…

What a weird story. One strongly suspects that there must be more to it. As reported, to not even be indicted (which usually has a low bar) for stabbing someone to death in full view of numerous witnesses seems like a pretty abnormal outcome.

From the article it sounds like it happened in the course of a fight that the other guy started; the grand jury may have just viewed it as self-defense.

Re: Worst Roommate Ever

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Post by [deleted] »

jwilk wrote: post #190
Chris2048 wrote: post #137

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