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Re: Show HN: Hacker News Classics

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Post by dang »

ReverseCold wrote: post #29
sillysaurus3 wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Note that https://news.ycombinator.com/front?day=2007-02-18 doesn't let you navigate backwards, but https://news.ycombinator.com/front?day=2006-10-09 is the first day. Out of curiosity, for the date rendering, did you xdef racket's date libraries or implement your own date algorithms in arc? I guess you could've also shelled out to `date -r ` which would get the feature done in about ten seconds.

Probably started logging front page on that day.

No, we only started that in Nov 2014. Before then, the /front pages sort things by points because that's all the data we have.

Re: Show HN: Hacker News Classics

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Post by superasn »

jsomers wrote: post #2

Occasionally you see articles on HN with a date in the title, like “(1998)” — and over the years I’ve noticed that these tend to be some of the best posts. It makes sense: on a site devoted to news , an article posted so long after it was published has to be especially good. So I hacked together this page, which links to every HN post with a date in its title earning more than 40 votes. It’s sorted in chronological o…

You are absolutely right, some articles are indeed timeless yet it's quite easy to miss them. This is a very good idea. A personal favorite of mine that gets posted here often is the Golden Rules for Making Money By P.T. Barnum (1880).

Re: Show HN: Hacker News Classics

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Post by slaman »

superasn wrote: post #52
jsomers wrote: post #2

Occasionally you see articles on HN with a date in the title, like “(1998)” — and over the years I’ve noticed that these tend to be some of the best posts. It makes sense: on a site devoted to news , an article posted so long after it was published has to be especially good. So I hacked together this page, which links to every HN post with a date in its title earning more than 40 votes. It’s sorted in chronological o…

You are absolutely right, some articles are indeed timeless yet it's quite easy to miss them. This is a very good idea. A personal favorite of mine that gets posted here often is the Golden Rules for Making Money By P.T. Barnum (1880).

Link for those who are interested:

https://www.gutenberg.org/files/8581/8581-h/8581-h.htm

Re: Show HN: Hacker News Classics

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Post by O_H_E »

Tomte wrote: post #48
fhrow4484 wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Really cool! Out of the 2k+ posts you list, some people are good at finding good quality classics! The top 10 here combined accounts for more than 10% of all the posts: USER POSTS COUNT Tomte 66 luu 42 tosh 33 ColinWright 27 adamnemecek 26 vezzy-fnord 26 brudgers 25 pmoriarty 24 networked 23 shawndumas 22

Unfortunately, I have so far failed to get a (1538) submission to stick. Well, let's try again: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16444460

I think it does not stick, because I don't understand anything from the title

Re: Show HN: Hacker News Classics

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Post by blauditore »

baddox wrote: post #41

This is very cool! Based on the title “HN Classics,” I thought it might be an implementation of another idea I’ve had. I had this idea to search for stand-out articles that get reposted every so often and always get a lot of good attention and discussion: so-called classics of HN. I think that data could be very interesting, and would also serve as a sort of “hall of fame” of articles the HN community loves (moreso t…

I thought reposts (and therefore scattered discussions) were discouraged on HN.

Re: Show HN: Hacker News Classics

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Post by ZenoArrow »

bringtheaction wrote: post #21
gus_massa wrote: post #3

I'd prefer to sort them by points. By age is interesting, by the way. Do you do some deduplication. Some classics are resubmitted a few times successfully. Perhaps add a third sort criteria, that is sorted by the number of big reposts.

Problem with by points is that over time as more people come to HN the number of points are worth less, unless HN does like Reddit does and weighs them but even then such a system tends to change over time and so it’s still not comparable. For example say that several years ago a post might hit front page and 500 people would vote on it. If 300 people voted up and 200 down then it gets 100 points. Fast forward and no…

You can't downvote posts on HN, you can flag them but you can't downvote them. On HN, downvoting is only possible on comments.

Re: Show HN: Hacker News Classics

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Post by baddox »

blauditore wrote: post #55
baddox wrote: post #41

This is very cool! Based on the title “HN Classics,” I thought it might be an implementation of another idea I’ve had. I had this idea to search for stand-out articles that get reposted every so often and always get a lot of good attention and discussion: so-called classics of HN. I think that data could be very interesting, and would also serve as a sort of “hall of fame” of articles the HN community loves (moreso t…

I thought reposts (and therefore scattered discussions) were discouraged on HN.

From what I’ve seen, it’s perfectly acceptable for older articles that are reposted after a considerable amount of time.

The best example I can find on short notice is this hexagonal grids article:

https://hn.algolia.com/?query=Hexagonal%20Grids&sort=byDate&...

You could likely find more by searching HN comments for the phrase “previous discussion,” because people tend to post links to the previous HN submissions.

It doesn’t bother me, since there are likely always new HN readers who haven’t seen great “classic” articles.

The HN FAQ says:

> If a story has had significant attention in the last year or so, we kill reposts as duplicates. If not, a small number of reposts is ok.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html

Re: Show HN: Hacker News Classics

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Post by derefr »

jsomers wrote: post #2

Occasionally you see articles on HN with a date in the title, like “(1998)” — and over the years I’ve noticed that these tend to be some of the best posts. It makes sense: on a site devoted to news , an article posted so long after it was published has to be especially good. So I hacked together this page, which links to every HN post with a date in its title earning more than 40 votes. It’s sorted in chronological o…

This is a clever and simple way to dredge up some great posts.

I wonder if you could ensure fewer false negatives (i.e. find even more great stuff) by doing the opposite: attempting to filter out every post whose link is to a page that came into existence within a month of the post's submission date.

This would likely require scraping the source links (unless you can get that from the https://cloud.google.com/bigquery/public-data/hacker-news dataset or somesuch), but it might be worth it anyway. It'd literally be "Hacker News, minus anything that looks like News."

Re: Show HN: Hacker News Classics

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Post by Cyphase »

Cyphase wrote: post #56
_lce0 wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

ahh was about to publish something in BC just to see what happens ;)

The Wheel: A More Efficient Method for the Production of Round Ceramic Wares (3500 B.C.)

But more seriously, I remembered the complaint tablet to Ea-nasir[1], which was on HN a few months ago[2]. Written in 1750 BCE.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complaint_tablet_to_Ea-nasir

[2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15669759

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