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IV Bags May Not Be Necessary to Rehydrate Patients

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Re: IV Bags May Not Be Necessary to Rehydrate Patients

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I was sent to the ER a while ago. I spent several hours there, mostly waiting in between test results. After a while I got really thirsty. But they wouldn't let me drink until a doctor cleared me for drinking. This went on for several more hours, at which point I ended up dehydrated. They gave me an IV bag to rehydrate. The cynic in me suspects they routinely tell people they can't drink water simply so they can charge for IV bags.

Re: IV Bags May Not Be Necessary to Rehydrate Patients

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Possibly, you're not dead so it worked. The better solution would have been ORS, and water. In the military and other physically demanding activities with a culture of water drinking, a concern can be hyponatremia.

Ah, I'm told I spent a good portion of the remainder of that day in a state of incoherence and delirium. I also slept for 12 hours... I'm able to code nowadays, so apparently I didn't fry my brain too much :)

Perhaps you fried your brain just right.

Re: IV Bags May Not Be Necessary to Rehydrate Patients

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Wasn't there a scene in Hangover (the movie) where this was offered as service in Las Vegas?

There appears to be a scene in reality where someone is doing this, too: https://www.theivdoc.com/ ("Food Poisoning Relief")

The salts work great for normal hangovers though.

Re: IV Bags May Not Be Necessary to Rehydrate Patients

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post #51

I was sent to the ER a while ago. I spent several hours there, mostly waiting in between test results. After a while I got really thirsty. But they wouldn't let me drink until a doctor cleared me for drinking. This went on for several more hours, at which point I ended up dehydrated. They gave me an IV bag to rehydrate. The cynic in me suspects they routinely tell people they can't drink water simply so they can char…

In this case, if you needed a surgical intervention (or anything requiring sedation), its safer to be hydrated via IV fluids. Unfortunately ER's (and Hospital's in general) can move incredibly slow (often for no reason) and outside of emergencies are rarely good at any kind of prioritization. Add it all up and you get situations like yours :(

Re: IV Bags May Not Be Necessary to Rehydrate Patients

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And hung-over medical personnel..

> And hung-over medical personnel You're being down-voted, but I know a number of military medics and hospital employees who do this after heavy drinking. Seems to work like a charm.

When I was in the army we did this regularly. My barracks roommate was our platoon medic and would stockpile as many IV bags as he could without causing suspicion. Anytime we had a late night of heavy drinking, before morning PT he’d hook up a bag and 20 minutes later we’d be feeling great and good to go,.

Re: IV Bags May Not Be Necessary to Rehydrate Patients

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Yes, so save that for the really necessary cases Even if the person has nausea, they can drink a bit at a time > Second, she says, is to resist the temptation to drink at a normal rate—let alone chugging the stuff. An ounce at a time every few minutes decreases the odds that the liquid will, um, return from whence it came.

> Even if the person has nausea, they can drink a bit at a time. Not necessarily. Sometimes the nausea is so severe that even a teaspoon of water gets sent back the way it came in… a most unpleasant feeling when the body refuses to take anything and ends up vomiting fluids beyond the stomach—e.g. bile.

Yes, my phrase is missing "in some cases"

Re: IV Bags May Not Be Necessary to Rehydrate Patients

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I never liked spoon based measurements as the spoon size varies. There’s also the never ending question of level vs heaping.

With those things it doesn't have to be exact. I can imagine how much 6 teaspoons or 2 tablespoons are. But I can't really do anything with 25g without a scale.

I was curious because I sometimes estimate recipe ingredients so I and compared my intuitive notion of a teaspoon and tablespoon to their measured amounts using table salt and found it to be off by a larger margin than I expected.

Re: IV Bags May Not Be Necessary to Rehydrate Patients

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That explains my appetite in sweet beverages (which I normally do not drink) when having a hangover.

Same. I'm always really in the mood for orange juice when I'm hungover.

Dehydration causes sugar binges for this reason.

There's many a time, I believe, I've mistaken a loss of appetite control for some "emotional event" when it's been mere dehydration.

I recently traveled for several days without drinking much and sugar binged when getting home. I assumed the travel had stressed me, rather, I was just severely dehydrated.

Re: IV Bags May Not Be Necessary to Rehydrate Patients

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The salt isn't there because you need salt, it's there to optimise absorption of water. This is treatment for H2O deficiency, not anything else.

Huh, interesting, anything i can read on this point? Aka citation please.

This seems to explain it.. http://www.vivo.colostate.edu/hbooks/pathphys/digestion/smal...

Re: IV Bags May Not Be Necessary to Rehydrate Patients

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> You can also make good oral rehydration solutions yourself at home for pennies: Just take 32 ounces of water and add 6 teaspoons of sugar and a half-teaspoon of salt. > resist the temptation to drink at a normal rate... An ounce at a time every few minutes This should be something everyone learns. Many common headaches are just dehydration. When you've got a cold or flu, dehydration is common and makes you feel eve…

Would drinking oral rehydration solution mixed with vodka prevent the hangover from occurring in the first place?
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