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Re: Austin, Denver, Detroit: Good Places to Be a Software Engineer Looking for a Job

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Post by JPKab »

starwind0 wrote: post #52
look_lookatme wrote: post #50

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> Seriously the drug use is pretty Rampant in Denver too. Not a turn off to all, but given the places I did work, you wouldn't expect it. Texas is so much better. What does this mean? If you mean cannabis use, who cares? It's legal and it's harmless. If you are talking about opioid abuse or something else, that's a different story. It sounds like you had some subjectively bad individual experiences because you mixed…

Feel free to move to Denver :-) Just remember you were warned. I only lived there about 25 years. Trust me I am not talking just coworkers. People in Texas are in general more friendly. You will notice these things if you move around like I have.

I live in Colorado.

I've lived all over as well. The Denver metro is about as friendly as Austin metro in my opinion. Texas as a whole is friendly because it's the south, but that pertains to non urban areas.

I do find people in the West to be poorly mannered but not unfriendly. Frankly, growing up in the South, people in other places have bad manners in general to me.

I think it's important to know that companies have different cultures, and your experience of Austin or Denver can be heavily affected by that.

Re: Austin, Denver, Detroit: Good Places to Be a Software Engineer Looking for a Job

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Post by JPKab »

souprock wrote: post #65
look_lookatme wrote: post #50

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> Seriously the drug use is pretty Rampant in Denver too. Not a turn off to all, but given the places I did work, you wouldn't expect it. Texas is so much better. What does this mean? If you mean cannabis use, who cares? It's legal and it's harmless. If you are talking about opioid abuse or something else, that's a different story. It sounds like you had some subjectively bad individual experiences because you mixed…

It is not legal. Federal law has not changed. The fact that enforcement in Colorado is minimal does not make usage legal. The federal government sure does care. You won't be getting a security clearance if you are a user. This cuts you off from over a million jobs. It's not harmless either, particularly if you breath it. Even non-drug stuff like Lysol and candle smoke will mess up your lungs. The drug aspect is real…

I held a top secret clearance for 8 years, and worked in the DC area.

Those jobs suck, and your attitude does as well. You sound like a stuck up prude.

Re: Austin, Denver, Detroit: Good Places to Be a Software Engineer Looking for a Job

#93

Post by JPKab »

jonny_doe wrote: post #21
_raaq wrote: post #6

EX Denver developer here. Colorado Native. Now an Austin Dev (I'm a senior / lead android dev) I can safely say that the job market in Denver is terrible. Yes you can find work, but the company culture are terrible. I found myself with brogrammers that had 0 engineering style hobbies or being asked to work 60 hours every week. There are a few gems.. But the Jobs you want, aren't hiring mobile devs because their offic…

I second that (..culture, practically no great opportunities, etc..). My story - if you're a c/c++ & linux & kernel & backend & network & .. & senior sw guy who doesn't do camping (gaming term), I wouldn't recommend Denver, unless you are ready to 'convert' to python, java, .. I've moved from the Bay Area.

Yo, I'm an engineer and we are hiring senior c++ devs in Denver area. Hit me up.

Re: Austin, Denver, Detroit: Good Places to Be a Software Engineer Looking for a Job

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Post by rdiddly »

u801e wrote: post #58
look_lookatme wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Seriously the drug use is pretty Rampant in Denver too. Not a turn off to all, but given the places I did work, you wouldn't expect it. Texas is so much better. What does this mean? If you mean cannabis use, who cares? It's legal and it's harmless. If you are talking about opioid abuse or something else, that's a different story. It sounds like you had some subjectively bad individual experiences because you mixed…

> If you mean cannabis use, who cares? It's legal and it's harmless. If you are talking about opioid abuse or something else, that's a different story. Whether or not people use drugs or alcohol when they're not working shouldn't be relevant. If it leads to impairment in the workplace such that they cannot perform their job, then it becomes a problem.

Well there's one more way it can matter, and make your experience suck: When the downstairs neighbors smoke out at all hours, and it comes up through your floor and in through your windows, and the whole place smells like Tom Petty & Willie Nelson were hanging out. Not even during work hours. Or worse, during your remote-working hours that don't happen to correspond to the neighbors' working hours.

Almost sounds like I have personal experience doesn't it?

Re: Austin, Denver, Detroit: Good Places to Be a Software Engineer Looking for a Job

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Post by [deleted] »

corpMaverick wrote: post #84
pm90 wrote: post #30

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Speaking purely from anecdotal evidence: Dallas certainly does have a lot of good jobs, but its not a liberal enclave like Austin. In some ways its more representative of Texas than Austin, which is definitely more like SF (except maybe the rents, which are definitely far more reasonable). But Dallas has its own charms for sure. You can get really huge houses close to work for pretty cheap, the school systems are pre…

Which city sounds better for raising a family ?

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Re: Austin, Denver, Detroit: Good Places to Be a Software Engineer Looking for a Job

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Post by [deleted] »

snow_mac wrote: post #63
_raaq wrote: post #6

EX Denver developer here. Colorado Native. Now an Austin Dev (I'm a senior / lead android dev) I can safely say that the job market in Denver is terrible. Yes you can find work, but the company culture are terrible. I found myself with brogrammers that had 0 engineering style hobbies or being asked to work 60 hours every week. There are a few gems.. But the Jobs you want, aren't hiring mobile devs because their offic…

How's the pay in austin?

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Re: Austin, Denver, Detroit: Good Places to Be a Software Engineer Looking for a Job

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Post by oceanghost »

ryandrake wrote: post #59
oceanghost wrote: post #35

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The balls on some of the C2H people are amazing. I had been at a position for 10 years-- some CEO calls me and says my skillset would be PERFECT for his company, would I be interested in talking. We get into details, its C2H, I decline. He was absolutely incensed, he says, "well, its just to make sure you're a good culture fit!" To which I reply, "I'm not going to leave a stable job for what is essentially contract w…

You likely dodged a bullet there. A CEO getting “beyond pissed” over what is essentially a business deal is weird. Does he also get beyond pissed when he loses a customer or when a deadline slips? Super red flag when a company rep (let alone the CEO) loses their cool during something as pedestrian as hiring!

Oh I know I did. If I'm PERFECT for the role-- why contract again? I'm not going to pull my trigger if you're not going to pull yours.

These amateur [psycho|soicio]paths have no balls. A real psycho would have hired me then fired me. Basically, he is confident enough to lie to someone to hire them, but not confident enough to simply fire them when needed.

Re: Austin, Denver, Detroit: Good Places to Be a Software Engineer Looking for a Job

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Post by vin7 »

Johnny555 wrote: post #75
_raaq wrote: post #6

EX Denver developer here. Colorado Native. Now an Austin Dev (I'm a senior / lead android dev) I can safely say that the job market in Denver is terrible. Yes you can find work, but the company culture are terrible. I found myself with brogrammers that had 0 engineering style hobbies or being asked to work 60 hours every week. There are a few gems.. But the Jobs you want, aren't hiring mobile devs because their offic…

I found myself with brogrammers that had 0 engineering style hobbies What is an "engineering style hobby"? I work in the SF Bay Area, and the most popular hobby of my coworkers is "parent".

You can afford Thai children? Lucky!!

Re: Austin, Denver, Detroit: Good Places to Be a Software Engineer Looking for a Job

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Post by NotSammyHagar »

souprock wrote: post #65
look_lookatme wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Seriously the drug use is pretty Rampant in Denver too. Not a turn off to all, but given the places I did work, you wouldn't expect it. Texas is so much better. What does this mean? If you mean cannabis use, who cares? It's legal and it's harmless. If you are talking about opioid abuse or something else, that's a different story. It sounds like you had some subjectively bad individual experiences because you mixed…

It is not legal. Federal law has not changed. The fact that enforcement in Colorado is minimal does not make usage legal. The federal government sure does care. You won't be getting a security clearance if you are a user. This cuts you off from over a million jobs. It's not harmless either, particularly if you breath it. Even non-drug stuff like Lysol and candle smoke will mess up your lungs. The drug aspect is real…

You don't need a security clearance. It wasn't a crime to smoke pot in 1900, and pot itself does not one any damage. And I've never smoked pot! I do live in a state that has decriminalized it. In a few years it won't matter across the whole country. We'll still have things you puritan can use to look down at people, so don't fret. Mushroom (I've also never taken these either, person!) aren't becoming legal soon. Although they again cause no one any real trouble.
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