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Re: Austin, Denver, Detroit: Good Places to Be a Software Engineer Looking for a Job

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Post by burkemw3 »

danans wrote: post #79
bittermang wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Last time I was in Detroit the roads were the worst I'd ever seen. You couldn't even call them pot holes, they were just scars in the earth. For a place nicknamed The Motor City, it was a sad state of affairs. And that's the crux of it. It's not just the money, in fact it's never the money for me. It's a total quality of life scenario. Being across a bridge from Windsor Canada is cool, the Detroit museum is a great p…

> and the area has a great lineage for quality pizza What lineage are you referring to? Domino's and Little Caesars? (Both are headquartered in the area). They are perfectly edible, but I've never heard those described as representing a "quality pizza" lineage.

There is also [Detroit-style pizza][]. Buddy's is great. I've enjoyed Emmy Squared in NYC, and I'm looking to make one following the [Serious Eats guide][] sometime this year.

[Detroit-style pizza]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Detroit-style_pizza

[Serious Eats guide]: http://www.seriouseats.com/recipes/2017/02/detroit-style-piz...

Re: Austin, Denver, Detroit: Good Places to Be a Software Engineer Looking for a Job

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Post by smashingfiasco »

weirdkid wrote: post #68
tropo wrote: post #27

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Suppose that The Motor City wanted to help the local car industry. Would they build roads that favor keeping a Honda Accord or Toyota Camry for 20 years, or would they build roads that require yearly purchase of a huge SUV or a full-size AWD pickup truck?

Or, it's the sandy base you get when geographically surrounded by water. Or, it's the laws that removed weight limits for the trucking industry. Or, it's the lack of funds in poor areas. Or, it's the extreme changes in temperature combined with high water tables and wet weather. Or, it's a combination of all the above.

It's a combination. Plus it seems like the region has replaced manufacturing with never-ending construction.

I don't live in Detroit, I'm nearby in Toledo.

Re: Austin, Denver, Detroit: Good Places to Be a Software Engineer Looking for a Job

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Post by stevenwoo »

pm90 wrote: post #37
Cshelton wrote: post #31

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Dallas guy here, also a very senior SW engineer. My last two hires were about 5 months or so ago, but high availability? hah! I can't necessarily speak for the demand, other than it must be high, because it is hard to find available devs. Also from working with recruiters in the past couple of years, good candidates are snatched up very fast. If you have good experience (and are not a contractor that jumps companies…

> Austin's infrastructure has not kept up with the growth and it is nuts. Dallas and Houston have done a much better job when planning ahead for the growth of the entire job market, whereas Austin took somewhat of a Boulder, Co stance and decided they really don't need to work on infrastructure to aid growing the population. That's a whole other story though. That's sadly very true but its not from a lack of trying.…

Thought traffic on I-35 was pretty bad in the 90's when I lived in Austin and as bad as the worst parts of Houston, imagine it's much worse now.

Re: Austin, Denver, Detroit: Good Places to Be a Software Engineer Looking for a Job

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Post by corpMaverick »

pm90 wrote: post #30
jupiter90000 wrote: post #18

Does the Dallas story (low demand for devs, high availability of devs) line up with the experience of those here familiar with the market? Based on just looking at job postings, it didn't seem like there was a lack of demand for devs in that area, but I know that postings don't necessarily equate to high demand. Also if that's true, do alot of the Dallas devs in need of work go to Austin? Or is that not done for some…

Speaking purely from anecdotal evidence: Dallas certainly does have a lot of good jobs, but its not a liberal enclave like Austin. In some ways its more representative of Texas than Austin, which is definitely more like SF (except maybe the rents, which are definitely far more reasonable). But Dallas has its own charms for sure. You can get really huge houses close to work for pretty cheap, the school systems are pre…

Which city sounds better for raising a family ?

Re: Austin, Denver, Detroit: Good Places to Be a Software Engineer Looking for a Job

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Post by yanslookup »

pxlpshr wrote: post #25

For anyone looking for engineering positions in Austin, we are hiring at athenahealth ($ATHN). Senior-level positions in C#/.NET (+Azure), JAVA (+AWS), ReactJS/Native, iOS/Android. Our Austin office is where a lot of R&D happens and there is a huge push to re-platform into micro services. athenahealth also owns Epocrates, a very popular mobile app used by more than 600K providers. That product team is based here, too…

This is pretty ballsy considering the layoffs and push to offshore development going on right now at Athena... stock price is doing good though...

Re: Austin, Denver, Detroit: Good Places to Be a Software Engineer Looking for a Job

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Post by oh_sigh »

dionidium wrote: post #66
starwind0 wrote: post #54

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Sure, gaming, tech interests, programing.

Sounds great, honestly. I do program in my spare time, but I don't play video games, or board games; I don't care about comic-book movies; I'm not interested in prognosticating about cryptocurrencies; I don't think repetitive "sportsball" jokes are funny; and I really, really don't care about the specs of your new drone, tablet, phone, etc. It's nice having programmer co-workers who like to talk about almost anything…

It's funny to me that OP was basically lamenting that there are normal people who happen to be programmers in Denver. Isn't the nerd culture dominant in software frequently cited as part of the reason women drop out of the industry at higher rates than men?

Re: Austin, Denver, Detroit: Good Places to Be a Software Engineer Looking for a Job

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Post by Balgair »

_raaq wrote: post #6

EX Denver developer here. Colorado Native. Now an Austin Dev (I'm a senior / lead android dev) I can safely say that the job market in Denver is terrible. Yes you can find work, but the company culture are terrible. I found myself with brogrammers that had 0 engineering style hobbies or being asked to work 60 hours every week. There are a few gems.. But the Jobs you want, aren't hiring mobile devs because their offic…

I second this

Re: Austin, Denver, Detroit: Good Places to Be a Software Engineer Looking for a Job

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Post by Arubis »

kylixz wrote: post #56
stevenwoo wrote: post #11

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Maybe it's also an issue of job seekers not looking/knowing the right place to search? Off the top of my head there were not too many Denver postings in last months hiring post but hacker news might not be the best place to look.

I hate to hijack this post, but I need help in Denver. And no, I'm not a recruiter... I'm a tech lead. Chesapeake Technology also supports remote opportunities and have a few sites around the country. I think we have a pretty relaxed, yet get stuff done culture that I've had a hard time finding at other work places. In our Denver office there are about 10 people that come in semi-regularly but work remote as life hap…

If you haven’t already, I’d suggest joining https://denverdevs.org/ and dropping this into #topic-gigs on a Gigs Day. There’s a pretty active community there, and word of mouth branches out.

Re: Austin, Denver, Detroit: Good Places to Be a Software Engineer Looking for a Job

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Post by JPKab »

clumsysmurf wrote: post #61
_raaq wrote: post #6

EX Denver developer here. Colorado Native. Now an Austin Dev (I'm a senior / lead android dev) I can safely say that the job market in Denver is terrible. Yes you can find work, but the company culture are terrible. I found myself with brogrammers that had 0 engineering style hobbies or being asked to work 60 hours every week. There are a few gems.. But the Jobs you want, aren't hiring mobile devs because their offic…

I agree. Have been here for about 6 mos now, was hoping to have a good work / life balance (to me, that means running outdoors in open trail areas, not necessarily mountains - and not having a bad commute). I'm now working downtown and can not find any acceptable commute to a sparsely populated area. The W line to boulder is way too damn slow, I could probably ride a bicycle faster (it takes about 1:15 to go from bou…

Send me a private message. I'm an engineer and my company is hiring and we are nerdy to a fault. Our stack is C++, Node, React, Python, and C#(we are phasing that out).

We are in Broomfield, since Boulder got too expensive after we grew enough.

Re: Austin, Denver, Detroit: Good Places to Be a Software Engineer Looking for a Job

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Post by JPKab »

_raaq wrote: post #6

EX Denver developer here. Colorado Native. Now an Austin Dev (I'm a senior / lead android dev) I can safely say that the job market in Denver is terrible. Yes you can find work, but the company culture are terrible. I found myself with brogrammers that had 0 engineering style hobbies or being asked to work 60 hours every week. There are a few gems.. But the Jobs you want, aren't hiring mobile devs because their offic…

I work in Broomfield. Used to live in DC.

My company is nerd to the core in the right way. Hate the brogrammer crap.

We regularly host tournaments for obscure board games, people hack on crazy languages like Haskell and elm for fun, and add to that the company wide obsession with rock climbing.

I love it. But some of the shops I've seen sound like what you described.

I heard spotx is a bunch of brogrammers for instance.

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