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Re: OpenAI Supporters

#31

Makes sense, considering he already stole one of their best vision engineers to lead the AutoPilot project.

“Provided a superior opportunity and compensation.” These are people, you can’t “steal” them.

If I was working for Open AI, or had donated or provided funding, I would probably be angry that Elon moved a great engineer to Tesla because he thought that was more important. I would wonder if we could truly build a great team of if SpaceX and Tesla would just poach anyone exceptional.

Re: OpenAI Supporters

#32
post #9

"Additionally, Elon Musk will depart the OpenAI Board but will continue to donate and advise the organization. As Tesla continues to become more focused on AI, this will eliminate a potential future conflict for Elon."

Bit of a nitpick, I read this sentence a few times because it sounded a little confusing, but shouldn't that be: "but will continue to donate to, and advise the organization..." rather than just "to donate and advise..." sounds like he's donating OpenAI to someone. I'm unsure.

I read it to mean "but will continue to donate to, and advise the organization..." when I first read it but unable to do so after reading your comment. Not sure if this phenomena has a name for it.

Re: OpenAI Supporters

#33
post #13

Cool. Judging from his statements, he has very limited knowledge of the current state-of-the-art in AI. Because he is a great entrepreneur, has knowledge of other domains, people think he must know what he is saying about AI too. Edit: Original title had Elon Musk on it. My comment refers to him.

Do you want only experts in the field on your board? It looks like they had Elon on the board to inform what to research. His company has a bunch of data and motivation for AI research in general. Not many experts have domain knowledge that he has.

That is a separate issue. His comments made the incredibly talented researchers at OpenAI look really bad. I suspect this is one of the prime reasons he is leaving.

Re: OpenAI Supporters

#34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"to donate to" would be more correct, but very likely, a prickly editor said "YOU ENDED YOUR CLAUSE WITH A PREPOSITION, BE GONE WITH YOU!" and deleted the 'to'.

Ah, the sort of editor who knows just enough about language to be dangerous.

The injunction against ending with prepositions entirely comes from people wanting to turn English into Latin (similarly for split infinitives). There is no basis to deny it, and it's one of those rules where trying to adhere to it makes things harder, not easier, to understand.

Re: OpenAI Supporters

#35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

“Provided a superior opportunity and compensation.” These are people, you can’t “steal” them.

If I was working for Open AI, or had donated or provided funding, I would probably be angry that Elon moved a great engineer to Tesla because he thought that was more important. I would wonder if we could truly build a great team of if SpaceX and Tesla would just poach anyone exceptional.

I would hope that exceptional individuals would work wherever they choose. In most cases the folks who stick with non-profits like that they're working for a non-profit, even though the financial rewards are smaller than industry.

Re: OpenAI Supporters

#36
post #13

Cool. Judging from his statements, he has very limited knowledge of the current state-of-the-art in AI. Because he is a great entrepreneur, has knowledge of other domains, people think he must know what he is saying about AI too. Edit: Original title had Elon Musk on it. My comment refers to him.

Likewise, I'm tired of hearing about what Bill Gates thinks about such and such big problem. Just because he was clever at manipulative business dealings pushing 2nd rate OSes and milking billions from tax players, doesn't mean he knows much about anything else.

Please do some searching on the internet about what Gates knows about. There are many articles and first hand accounts of the array of experts and topics he familiarizes himself with.[0] He astounds high level researchers with his domain knowledge.

[0]https://www.joelonsoftware.com/2006/06/16/my-first-billg-rev...

Re: OpenAI Supporters

#37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Likewise, I'm tired of hearing about what Bill Gates thinks about such and such big problem. Just because he was clever at manipulative business dealings pushing 2nd rate OSes and milking billions from tax players, doesn't mean he knows much about anything else.

Please do some searching on the internet about what Gates knows about. There are many articles and first hand accounts of the array of experts and topics he familiarizes himself with.[0] He astounds high level researchers with his domain knowledge. [0] https://www.joelonsoftware.com/2006/06/16/my-first-billg-rev...

I believe the GP forgot /sarcasm tag

Re: OpenAI Supporters

#38
>Elon Musk will depart the OpenAI Board but will continue to donate and advise the organization. As Tesla continues to become more focused on AI, this will eliminate a potential future conflict for Elon

Interesting.

Re: OpenAI Supporters

#39
post #9

"Additionally, Elon Musk will depart the OpenAI Board but will continue to donate and advise the organization. As Tesla continues to become more focused on AI, this will eliminate a potential future conflict for Elon."

Bit of a nitpick, I read this sentence a few times because it sounded a little confusing, but shouldn't that be: "but will continue to donate to, and advise the organization..." rather than just "to donate and advise..." sounds like he's donating OpenAI to someone. I'm unsure.

could also have switched the verbs, i.e. "but will continue to advise the organization and donate"

Re: OpenAI Supporters

#40
post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you want only experts in the field on your board? It looks like they had Elon on the board to inform what to research. His company has a bunch of data and motivation for AI research in general. Not many experts have domain knowledge that he has.

That is a separate issue. His comments made the incredibly talented researchers at OpenAI look really bad. I suspect this is one of the prime reasons he is leaving.

Have some examples of how he made them look really bad? Not disputing, just curious.
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