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Help, what should I do when 2 founders have had a falling out?

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Re: Help, what should I do when 2 founders have had a falling out?

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It's clear that'd tom works differently than you two, so if you can, you should offer to buy him out. Or allow him to leave, but owning chunk of the company commensurate with getting it off of thebp ground. If these seem untenable, then you need to reach an agreement for working style that let's Tom feel coopmfortable. I believe the problem at it's core is trust. Tom wants to be able to plan ahead, and by not letting…

"It's clear that'd tom works differently than you two, so if you can, you should offer to buy him out."

I'm not saying that Tom shouldn't be let go, but he shouldn't be let go because he works differently. The thing that people have difficulty understanding is that these differences are good things. Everyone has blind spots. If you hire a bunch of people who work the same way, you all have the same blind spots and you're setting yourself up for a disaster. If you hire people who do work differently from you, you have fewer blind spots if you are willing to put work into it.

Re: Help, what should I do when 2 founders have had a falling out?

#12

Especially in a small company, the founders are going to have a few "small pebbles" that can get stuck in the machinery. If you try to ignore/override the grinding noises, you're engine is going to blow up. As painful as it might feel now, I think your best option would be to back off and let Tom do whatever he feels is important (like the website). The key is: DON'T make him feel like you're ignoring him or don't va…

To me Tom sounds like the person with the 'long view', the other two are 'firemen'. That's about as complimentary as it gets and you really need both. Without either they're dead in the water.

If I could upvote this 1000 times I would! These two mentalities seem to cause the most conflicts if you don't address them soon. But if you make it work, wonderful things can start to happen.

Re: Help, what should I do when 2 founders have had a falling out?

#13
> we cannot afford really experienced developers ... Tom says that we should use the developers we just hired to complete the projects. - I explain that they are fresh out of college and need to be trained before we can trust them to handle a project and deliver it successfully. - Tom disagrees.

I agree with Tom, let go some and have them code stuff for you, you guys are clearly over-worked. If you can't trust these young developers to develop, then why did you hire them? to decorate the office?

Re: Help, what should I do when 2 founders have had a falling out?

#14
You guys need to stop justifying your points of view to each other and empathize more. Observe:

> Tom mentions (1) that we both have not volunteered to write content for the website. - I respond (1) by saying I am not very good at writing and currently I am swamped with a lot of work. ... Jerry responds (1) by saying that he's swamped too, he's working on three different projects simultaneously,

So, he says "the website ought to be done," and you guys start explaining yourselves and brush him off. This is bad, it makes people upset. Instead, you ought to go - "yeah man, I understand, the website is important and it sucks it hasn't gotten done yet. What would we have to do to do that, while also keeping up with our other commitments?"

It's like customer service - you can't always fix the problem, but if you tell the customer they're wrong/stupid they're going to get pissed no matter what. At least say, "I heard you and understand that's frustrating you." Then ask how you can get it done without the ship sinking. At that point, Tom might even say, "Well, let's just do an hour a week to make sure it doesn't stagnate, but mostly have it on the back burner" or something like that - heck, you might even not do the hour a week at that point, but now he's saved face instead of gotten embarrassed. You guys sound like very logical and intelligent people, but don't underestimate how important it is for people to feel taken care of emotionally and save face.

> and says he’s been working (2) around 12-14hrs and on weekends for the past month. - Jerry accuses (2) Tom of not putting in as much effort as the rest of us are putting in. - Tom responds (2) by asking if we consider the website to be important (as it has not been updated for over a year). - Jerry responds (2) by saying that current projects take a priority,

No good, see? No empathy. Just accusing/defending yourselves. This always leads to bad places and isn't productive.

> and suggests (3) we could consider updating the website when work is less hectic (once we have transitioned the work to the new developers we hired). - Tom responds (3) by saying that he envisioned all us founders to be done with writing code by this point, and expected us to all be managing the developers or the sales/marketing side of things. - I try to explain (3) to Tom that we are still very small, we cannot afford really experienced developers, I can't envision (3) running our startup successfully without all of us coding for at least part of our time every day for at least couple of months more. I explain that we need to focus more (3) on the marketing and sales side of things but we can’t just jump into doing it fulltime right now. - Tom says (3) that we should use the developers we just hired to complete the projects. - I explain (3) that they are fresh out of college and need to be trained before we can trust them to handle a project and deliver it successfully. - Tom disagrees. (3)

Etc, etc, etc. Look, lots of arguing, not much empathizing and cooperating. This leads to bad places. I agree with Jacques that you guys need to lighten up, but also empathize more. Tom thinks the website and plan is important. You've got to say to him, "Tom, I understand you think the website and plan is important, and I agree. At the same time, we need to keep serving our customers. Do you have any ideas?" Listen without judging/disagreeing/explaining. You'll probably come up with something reasonable.

This doesn't seem fatal, no one's stealing or fistfighting or anything too bad. Some low morale during a bad economy and some arguments. Survivable. Just stop arguing, accusing, explaining, explaining, justifying, disagreeing - more empathy. Empathy fixes problems.

Re: Help, what should I do when 2 founders have had a falling out?

#15
post #9

"I explain that they are fresh out of college and need to be trained before we can trust them to handle a project and deliver it successfully." This is a key statement right here. If you can't trust them to deliver projects relatively quickly you shouldn't have hired them (and probably need to get rid of them). I'm not saying that you should treat them like seasoned pros. But fresh out of college or not, your devs ar…

Yeah, it's sounds to me that you are being a bit harsh but at the same time I cannot fault your reasoning.

Re: Help, what should I do when 2 founders have had a falling out?

#16
What I hear in the story is that Tom is feeling incredibly frustrated at having to not only plan for the company's long-term growth, but that he's repeatedly brought up the fact that you and Jerry's reactive strategies work to help increase everyone's workload. And this particular latest straw, in which Jerry not only agrees to extra work, but then tries to reassign it to Tom, is viewed by Tom as something only a dedicated crazymaker would do.

If I were in your shoes, I would hire a facilitator for the next meeting. An earlier response mentioned being on the same page as being very important and I have to agree. I think having a professional facilitator will help you, Tom and Jerry (wait -- Tom and Jerry like the cat and the mouse?) hear each other.

Good luck.

Re: Help, what should I do when 2 founders have had a falling out?

#17

You guys need to stop justifying your points of view to each other and empathize more. Observe: > Tom mentions (1) that we both have not volunteered to write content for the website. - I respond (1) by saying I am not very good at writing and currently I am swamped with a lot of work. ... Jerry responds (1) by saying that he's swamped too, he's working on three different projects simultaneously, So, he says "the webs…

I agree with you. It is very important in a discussion to show everybody, that you still respect each other and emphasize how important that 'working together' point is to every body.

What happens in that company, will happen to every company earlier or later. Surviving this situation shows that the company really has some fundament to stand and live on.

Every company needs a lightning rot. Some person who is able, to end unproductive discussions without anybody losing face. Maybe you, gogy, are up to that task. Maybe not. If you feel as overwhelmed with the situation as I guess, then maybe you should find some body else to take that job. And you don't need to hire somebody for that. Maybe you find an older, more experienced person to be you advisor. Somebody all of you 3 can trust in and that maybe has some business experience himself. Older people are often good at recognising arguments that are not real arguments but just a way to let out some air. And because as an advisor he does not have to work full time on your projects, he can look more clearly on the big picture and maybe even help to make better strategical decisions for the company at all.

btw. why do you guys overload yourself with more customer projects and stopped trying to build something yourself?

Re: Help, what should I do when 2 founders have had a falling out?

#18

Hi To me, it seems that you guys dont really have any serious issue. Its just that you all have freaked out due to huge amount of work you have been doing. I hope im right and you'll manage to get along and pass this pressure.

I think that's the best advice here. Under normal circumstances they could probably resolve these problems with little difficulty. It's easy to focus on the symptoms, but that's not the real problem.

The problem is that they're under the influence of an extra high dose of stress. They're not really themselves right now. The best thing they can do is constantly remind themselves that they're in a really stressed out state. If they can get past this and find a way to reduce their stress it's quite likely they'll be able to work together happily again.

Re: Help, what should I do when 2 founders have had a falling out?

#19
story was long, bud I did read it.

there is a difference between funded company and self-funded company. Tom is better suited as a employee or partner in a funded company.

being a small company you and Jerry accomodate change because you need to survive, also it can be your USP and the reason why clients came to you in the first place.

it is difficult to share work and profit equally when the work comes in varied formats.

on a longer term overworking would exhaust you.

try ways to give incentives your management team and employees, revenue targets, 0 defects, referrals can all be metrics which can be used to judge the incentives. give it a shot for a month and discuss if situation has improved

splitting is very easy but it might affect your growth, focus and profits, undoing may not be possible later

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