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Apple Maps vs. Google Maps vs. Waze

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Re: Apple Maps vs. Google Maps vs. Waze

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Post by erikpukinskis »

freehunter wrote: post #233
ctdonath wrote: post #194

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most of the time I do. I only use Waze when on long-haul freeways, concerned about police & other traffic issues. I usually use Apple Maps as general runabout guidance, Google Maps when really concerned about best/scenic routes, Google Earth when interested in topography.

Whenever I hear people (and I hear it a lot) saying they use Waze to avoid police, I never really understand it. Waze is all user-reported, right? It's not a radar detector. So even if 100% of drivers are Wave users and they report 100% of police waiting at speed traps, there always has to be the first Waze user to encounter that cop without warning from their app. And that 100% number is a huge assumption. I find th…

You don’t need 100% accuracy to save money using Waze. Even if they only catch 90% of speeed traps, that still saves you 90% of your speeding fines.

For you, whose speeding fines are $0, ninety percent of zero seems like a small number. But for someone who spends >$0 on speeding it is worth some money.

Re: Apple Maps vs. Google Maps vs. Waze

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Post by andrewmcwatters »

kimdcmason wrote: post #239
Humdeee wrote: post #230

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is it? Snarky and obvious comments generally will attract down votes. Those kind of comments become tiresome and dilute a discussion.

It didn't strike me as snarky at all, and it's also not obvious considering that many people want the police warnings so that they can break the law. Apparently complying with laws is seen as optional by a lot of folks, and the result is mass deaths and injury. Police and red light camera warnings in Waze always struck me as both encouragement and enablement of deliberate law breaking.

Yep, and there's a whole market for radar detection. It's basically an unethical software feature.

Re: Apple Maps vs. Google Maps vs. Waze

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Post by TheAdamist »

Waze has settings to output to the phone speaker, instead of bluetooth, even when its connected to the car via bluetooth. My stereo doesn't autoswitch to bluetooth when directions come in, only on phone calls, so unless i want to hear dead air 99% of the time, i dont get directions from google maps which doesn't have such an override.

Re: Apple Maps vs. Google Maps vs. Waze

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Post by kimdcmason »

CamperBob2 wrote: post #111
megy wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Providing this information makes it easier for people to speed in other places, making the roads a more dangerous place. This rule has definitely cost lives. If you don't think it is unethical, then what is your definition?

This sounds like an excellent place for a [Citation Needed] tag, no pun intended.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0012902/

tldr; speed traps save lives and reduce injury.

Re: Apple Maps vs. Google Maps vs. Waze

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Post by tacomonstrous »

TheAdamist wrote: post #244

Waze has settings to output to the phone speaker, instead of bluetooth, even when its connected to the car via bluetooth. My stereo doesn't autoswitch to bluetooth when directions come in, only on phone calls, so unless i want to hear dead air 99% of the time, i dont get directions from google maps which doesn't have such an override.

Google Maps has the same setting, at least on Android.

Re: Apple Maps vs. Google Maps vs. Waze

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Post by flyinghamster »

tzs wrote: post #24

I'd like to see a review of how the various navigation apps do in situations with unusually heavy, unusually widespread traffic, such as when people were trying to go home after the 2017 total eclipse in the US. I was using Waze when leaving Madras, Oregon, after the eclipse heading to the Puget Sound area of Washington. It suggested a route that would bypass a couple miles of slow traffic, but the road it sent me do…

My own experience, returning from western Kentucky to the Chicago area, was interesting in the "may you live in interesting times" sense. From the outset I decided to take back roads where feasible. Traveling through rural southern Illinois, I noticed small parades of cars forming, and Google Maps wanted to put me on Route 1, which turned into a massive parade of cars.

Meanwhile, T-Mobile in southern Illinois leaves a lot to be desired, and so dynamic routing was iffy at best unless I was near an interstate. I decided to head off on county blacktops and secondary state routes, sans data coverage, and made good time in spite of storms. I got on I-57 near Effingham, and traffic went smoothly until I approached Champaign-Urbana, where my ETA steadily racked upward as I got closer. A quick peek showed lots of trouble ahead around Rantoul.

So, I stopped for dinner in Champaign, then Google Maps sent me out on back roads until I got around the bad construction backup near Rantoul, after I "primed the pump" by heading north out of town on Mattis Avenue. From then on it was trouble-free.

On the other hand, one of my best experiences with Google Maps occurred one Thanksgiving Eve, on my way to Midland, Michigan. Near Kalamazoo, it informed me of a faster route, and when I took it, it quickly put me on surface streets. I was thinking "WTF?" until I passed another I-94 on-ramp, where the tag said "58 minutes slower." Apparently, there was a wreck near Battle Creek. The new route put me on the designated I-94 emergency bypass once I left Kalamazoo, and past the wreck it returned me to the interstate.

Re: Apple Maps vs. Google Maps vs. Waze

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Post by flyinghamster »

vagab0nd wrote: post #243

In Google Maps Navigation, there used to be a "dim screen between turns" option. Anyone knows where it went? Not sure why they took it away. Seems to be a pretty useful feature.

I miss the +/- zoom buttons, and having Google Maps respect my zoom level when I hit the "center map" button.

Re: Apple Maps vs. Google Maps vs. Waze

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Post by rb666 »

Angostura wrote: post #155
rb666 wrote: post #153

I bought a new Tomtom kit recently after having used Waze and Google Maps for a couple years. I am glad I did, Tomtom has not been sitting still. Speed and interface have greatly improved and their guidance is still best in class. Same for the traffic and speedcam warnings. Not cheap, though...

Their guidance is great, but I find the hardware horrible. I bought a top of the range model about 3 years ago and right from the start it was laggy. typing in an address and waiting for the letter to appear is just so silly for a company that controls the whole platform. I find Garmin UX to be much better, but their traffic system is worse.

Agree, that's why I waited for the 5200. It finally has a proper fast UI with search functionality close to what a phone can provide.

Re: Apple Maps vs. Google Maps vs. Waze

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Post by [deleted] »

kimdcmason wrote: post #239
Humdeee wrote: post #230

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is it? Snarky and obvious comments generally will attract down votes. Those kind of comments become tiresome and dilute a discussion.

It didn't strike me as snarky at all, and it's also not obvious considering that many people want the police warnings so that they can break the law. Apparently complying with laws is seen as optional by a lot of folks, and the result is mass deaths and injury. Police and red light camera warnings in Waze always struck me as both encouragement and enablement of deliberate law breaking.

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