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There's a Persistent Hum in Windsor, Ontario, and No One Knows Why

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Re: There's a Persistent Hum in Windsor, Ontario, and No One Knows Why

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Sound is such a context-dependent experience. I vividly remember taking a walk with my parents in the Alps through the most pristine landscape. It was beautiful, except for the annoying sounds of a nearby highway. A few minutes later, we expected to see that highway across one hill, but were astonished to find a glorious waterfall. The instant we saw the water, the experience of the sound was transformed to something…

The similar experience but with taste, or the tactile sensations of food, is even worse for me. I've never noticed this with sound that I can remember.

Re: There's a Persistent Hum in Windsor, Ontario, and No One Knows Why

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Now I am deeply curious! I’m a Detroiter and Zug Island is a quick drive south. Is it audible from the US side? I have a passport, but “I want to hear the Windsor hum” might not, unfortunately, fly at the border anymore.

Now I am curious: do you really need to state a reason to pass a border? In Europe, when you don't need a visa, you simply cross the border, no questions asked. And if somebody asked me anyway, I'd just say "I want to visit the town. I'm curious."

Welcome to the lovely United States. ;) Since 9-11, border security, especially returning to the US, has gotten extremely paranoid. At all three spots between Michigan and Canada (the Ambassador Bridge, the tunnel, and the crossing in Sarnia), everyone is stopped and questioned by border agents if they don’t have some kind of automatic pass that requires clearance ahead of time. You’re asked a lot of questions, like where you’re going, whom you expect to see, how much money you have, how long you expect to be there (in Canada; probably similar for visiting the US), etc. Going into Canada seems to be easier, although it really depends on how that border agent is feeling that day. All of my times so far have been relatively painless: “Why are you visiting?” “Oh, okay. Enjoy Canada!” It’s a crapshoot. Sometimes they search your car.

I have to say, I do miss the Schengen area. Going from the Netherlands to Germany was a breeze.

Re: There's a Persistent Hum in Windsor, Ontario, and No One Knows Why

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As a kid I remember going past the area around Zug Island on a boat. I have a distinct memory of the huge stacks billowing yellow smoke, and the twists of ductwork forming structures that look like hellish versions of the buildings from a Dr Seuss story [1][2]. It was simultaneously amazing and terrifying, and I couldn't take my eyes off it until it passed out of view. Years later I'd learn about how poorer neighborh…

A friend of mine showed me this book:

- https://smile.amazon.com/Blast-Furnaces-Bernd-Becher/dp/0262...

The photos are 'impeccable' art, but the subjects are definitely 'awful'. Along with looking at a series of photos of mills, I gained a much better appreciation for the visceral disgust people have (historically) had about 'industry'. They truly look like outposts of Evil.

Re: There's a Persistent Hum in Windsor, Ontario, and No One Knows Why

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I can produce noise in my ears on command. It sounds like loud, low-pitched white noise. I'm not sure what exactly im doing, but it feels like im contracting some muscle inside my head near the temples. Is this normal and could this be something similar?

I don't know the correct terms here, but there is a path from your throat to your ears that is normally closed. When you swallow or yawn the paths usually open, but some people can voluntarily open them. When you do it, you can hear a low humming, but also sounds through your mouth. Maybe this is what you mean? It's clearer if you're wearing for example hearing protection, and open your mouth and the paths.

The path from your throat to your ears is called the Eustachian tube.

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As one who can hear these sounds, I can attest to how maddening it is. It's even worse when (most of) the people around you can't hear it, and they don't believe you. Earplugs only make it worse, because they filter out ambient noise that otherwise helps distract you from the incessant hum. Daytime is not as bad as night because of the natural activity sounds of a city. I have read that waves and underwater currents…

That's funny, when I moved to Colorado was the first time I started hearing it. My wife can't hear it at all but it's so loud sometimes at night it drives me crazy. It's not in my head, it's definitely coming from a certain direction. Its very low, I can barely see it on an app I put on my phone, "Spectroid". I'm pretty sure I know what it is, the coal trains moving down the front range. The tracks are like 10 miles…

There is natural infrasound in the Front Range, caused by winds somewhere in the vicinity of Long's Peak:

https://journals.ametsoc.org/doi/abs/10.1175/1520-0450%28197...

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This might be a case of https://www.reddit.com/r/earrumblersassemble/

That page right there is why I never used Reddit and when I drop by I just don't understand it. So, your comment sounds interesting, I click the page and it's just a bunch of unrelated stuff with title's like "Does anybody else use it when they don't want to hear something ?" Hear what? What is the level above, what connects these posts?? The top of the page just says "Come for the cats stay for the something" and th…

Don't worry, I'm with you on this one. It's a garbage format, and it's assuredly a willful lack of organization as an exclusionary tactic, used to alienate people on some level, and require degrees of subordination among those late to the party. Is it simply a natural defense mechanism, that preserves an otherwise autonomous complex system? Maybe...

It's used all over the internet, and it's, by turns, a passive aggressive posture. Some acquiesce, and others enforce. The rest abandon. Linux follows a similar pattern with RTFM.

The Linux community process, as an example, has graduated to exclusion through sheer volume, with shrugs all around, as if to say the world really is just that complicated. But it's not. Inertia makes the situation more complicated than things need to be, and that disorganization (which was originally a product of the "everything is a file/lots of tiny, specialized executable programs" philosophy started with UNIX, leaves everyone blameless and) offers advantages to what I've come to refer to as trivia sherpas, who understand the seniority they've accumulated, and wish to keep things that way.

It often doesn't start as anything malicious, and some of it really is incidental, but that it stays that way is no accident. Sort of like the petroleum and automobile industry dynamic. Neither was an ideal solution for the problems they solve, but once circumstances snowballed in a certain direction, we all got stuck with these elephants in the room. Is it possible to uproot and improve the situation? I wonder...

Re: There's a Persistent Hum in Windsor, Ontario, and No One Knows Why

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My experience is that it’s pretty damn hard. SOMETHING is generating a low frequency hum that I can hear in my bedroom in Seattle; in fact I’m in there’s hearing it right now. It’s been going since somewhere last summer. I hear it every night and it’s still maddening.

What area? I hear a hum many nights in Ballard which I'm pretty sure is the Ballard Terminal Railroad.

U District. It's been there 24-7 since it started.

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post #123

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My experience is that it’s pretty damn hard. SOMETHING is generating a low frequency hum that I can hear in my bedroom in Seattle; in fact I’m in there’s hearing it right now. It’s been going since somewhere last summer. I hear it every night and it’s still maddening.

The West Seattle Hum is what I heard it called, but it seems to reach all around Seattle[0]. I can't hear it, but many people do. 0. http://knkx.org/post/mysterious-hum-keeping-west-seattle-nig...

The one from 2012 was found and fixed: http://westseattleblog.com/2012/12/the-hum-followup-calportl...

This one started in Summer 2016 and is going 24-7. The only times I've stopped hearing it is when I've gone on vacation; I really need to move. But finding a new place in Seattle is kind of a nightmare right now, and moving to a new city is not without its own complications!

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post #93

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My experience is that it’s pretty damn hard. SOMETHING is generating a low frequency hum that I can hear in my bedroom in Seattle; in fact I’m in there’s hearing it right now. It’s been going since somewhere last summer. I hear it every night and it’s still maddening.

When I first moved to Seattle I lived in an apartment in Kirkland and suddenly the hum started. It lasted for months until I moved out and it almost drove me nuts. It was as if it was drilling into my brain at night. Oddly, my wife didn't hear it.

My boyfriend doesn't hear it. That's fun, isn't it? You start questioning your own sanity after a while.
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