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Why It’s So Hard to Actually Work in Shared Offices

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Re: Why It’s So Hard to Actually Work in Shared Offices

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Maybe that's just WeWork, maybe it's a culture that develops in certain places. I've worked at CrossCampus in Pasadena for awhile and there are a bunch of programmers, writers, and other types who need to be able to concentrate who have made the shared-table space work for us. Together we've made it more of a "study hall" atmosphere. We asked management to turn the music down to an acceptable volume in our part of the floor, and we apply social pressure on people who talk too loud or are otherwise too distracting.

In my experience shared-table or open-plan offices didn't work when I was at a company, but they work pretty well in a coworking space. One aspect of this is the lack of a power dynamic: you're not sharing an open-plan office with your manager. You can also leave (or threaten to leave) a coworking space if it doesn't work for you. Members have more power over their environment if they can organize. WeWork is a huge chain now, so maybe this works better at smaller coworking spaces that have less corporate inertia.

Re: Why It’s So Hard to Actually Work in Shared Offices

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Having worked in traditional offices, open offices, at home, at Starbucks, and at various coworking spaces - I still don't know how to feel about shared offices. I am using one right now on trial basis, and I can tell once or twice a week is about right for me. It's great for putting together a marketing presentation, not so great for coding.

I also ran a tech coworking space for a couple of years. I shut it down. I will be happy to share what I learned if anyone is interested.

Re: Why It’s So Hard to Actually Work in Shared Offices

#23
YMMV, but my current workplace sits in a co-working space (although we are big enough to have our own exclusive office within it) and the noise levels on the common areas from what I have seen are ok most of the time. No music being pumped anywhere. The place described in the article sounds like a dystopian nightmare, but I doubt its the norm...

Also, if you are a freelancer or a tech founder that wants to work on his own thing, what is the alternative? Working on a coffee shop brings pretty much the same noise problems + no guarantee of power supply/fast Wifi. Working from home all the time can get lonely. Renting an office? Too expensive...so co-working spaces fill a nice niche.

Re: Why It’s So Hard to Actually Work in Shared Offices

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That's not a shared office, it's a coworking space or something. I've shared an office with a teammate before, and it was very productive. It was a great mix of heads-down work and the ability to discuss issues/design as needed. OTOH, someone I know started a coworking space a few miles away from my home. I popped in there a couple of times to check it out and decided it was very much not for me. Too much "collaborat…

Id agree my first job we had 2 or 3 people in each office and that worked well. We had some interesting brainstorm sessions how do you measure the efficiency of a toilet flush.

Though when I was in a portacabin next to the hanger where they tested executive jets it could get a bit loud :-)

Re: Why It’s So Hard to Actually Work in Shared Offices

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I tried working from home five days a week for about a year and I hated it. I like being in the office and having spur of the moment conversations that lead to productive brainstorming (rather than the mostly dry Slack or Teams conversations that occur). That being said, I don’t think I’d an enjoy a WeWork setup where there is constant buzz and activity. I think balance is key and finding work that’s flexible where you can possibly even change work contexts whenever you want (which is something I realize I’m very, very fortunate to have).

Re: Why It’s So Hard to Actually Work in Shared Offices

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They want an office that matches their personality. And apparently, that means beer on tap and lots of it. The office looked like the lobby of a hipster hotel. Over the next few weeks, we showed up each day and tapped away on MacBook Airs to the sounds of Portuguese house music and old-school hip hop piped in through speakers. (“Rap is urban, and so is WeWork,” the company explains online. “But more profoundly, the c…

Fittingly, from the recent NYT WeWork feature: "More than most companies, WeWork promotes the consumption of alcohol as an inherent virtue. " https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/17/business/the-wework-manif...

Re: Why It’s So Hard to Actually Work in Shared Offices

#27
I work in a shared office / coworking space.

We have 3 desks in a large open plan office with a kitchen area. It's about 10 feet from my desk. Most of the time it's just me from our company as the other devs work from home or work out the main office.

My experience of working in this shared space:

* It's noisy. I mean really noisy, noise cancelling headphones are a must. Like I said the kitchen area is near my desk, and people would routinely bang the cupboard doors. I sort of fixed this by putting felt and rubber on the doors to stop the loud banging, but I shouldn't have had to do this.

* People are noisy, people whistle, walk around talking loudly on their phones. Some people I'm sure talk loudly on purpose just to try and look like they are important in front of strangers. One guy makes random trumpet noises with his mouth...

* No one talks to anyone from other companies, to the point of awkwardness. I often see two people in the kitchen area from different companies and it can be a bit like a comedy sketch as they try to get their kitchening done without acknowledging the other person exists. Absurd, why don't people talk to each other. Especially people you see every day!

* When you are remotely working and the only person from your company you have no one to talk to and this is quite isolating and depressing. Especially worse if you end up in a room with 10 others and they are all from the same company. Then they start looking at you like you are in their space.

* The kitchen area, despite being an office staffed with supposed professionals, is always a mess. How does this happen?

Our office space is also open to a throughfare to conference rooms and such, so you randomly get random people walking through the office, again noisily.

But working here I at least don't have all the distractions of working from home.

Re: Why It’s So Hard to Actually Work in Shared Offices

#28
A better example would to have private offices with a shared space in the middle for working together.

I think the truth is that office space is very expensive in Sillicon valley startups. Thus to lower the operating costs shared space is used but it is not fully productive and has lots of distractions for workers.

Google is probably a company that has actual productivity data about working in private work spaces vs shared work spaces.

Re: Why It’s So Hard to Actually Work in Shared Offices

#29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If this is the future of tech work, then I guess I'd better find another career--perhaps gardening or wood-working? Exactly. I can't imagine working in an environment like that. You don't want to hear me playing Smooth by Neil Cicierega[1], and I don't want to hear you playing rap. A work environment is not the place to be playing music for everyone around you. Constant generic music is the worst part of retail, an…

Also alcohol flowing at work? I’m no teetotaler but isn’t that a recipe for trouble? Assuming we’re not just talking about sharing a few beers after hours. I’ve worked with people who drank on the job to the point where they were working totally shitfaced, and it’s not pretty. If they’re meeting with other teams or customers, they’re going to be an embarrassment, and if they’re checking in code... let’s not even go t…

Agreed. I don't drink, I don't mind if you drink, even in public. But please, not at work.

Re: Why It’s So Hard to Actually Work in Shared Offices

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post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If this is the future of tech work, then I guess I'd better find another career--perhaps gardening or wood-working? Exactly. I can't imagine working in an environment like that. You don't want to hear me playing Smooth by Neil Cicierega[1], and I don't want to hear you playing rap. A work environment is not the place to be playing music for everyone around you. Constant generic music is the worst part of retail, an…

I think that song has increased my productivity 150%.

That's why I like it, but I think you can agree that it's not universal music that everyone would enjoy. Which is (half of) why I wear headphones at work.
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