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Apple Maps vs. Google Maps vs. Waze

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Re: Apple Maps vs. Google Maps vs. Waze

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Post by namdnay »

seanp2k2 wrote: post #80
rxhernandez wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can configure waze for hov routes

I love that waze is configurable in this and other ways. That + the cop detector are what drive me to use it. Sadly, as an iOS user with CarPlay, it’s apple maps for nav with waze running in the background to alert me of hazards. Not elegant but it works. If any Apple employees are reading this: I’m definitely not the only one who hates Apple maps, and forcing me to use it makes me hate it even more. Stop that, PLEAS…

I like your hack for Waze, I never tried it. I was convinced that Apple Maps would block Waze from giving alerts. I'll try it out tomorrow, another 30s wasted every morning because Apple have decided to shove Maps down our throats...

PS: What are your gripes with the spotify app? For me it sometimes takes a while to open properly, but once running it's not bad, I can easily access some curated playlists as well as my saved songs and listening history. The "playing" interface is pretty rubbish, but I think that's a carplay mandate.

Re: Apple Maps vs. Google Maps vs. Waze

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Post by rcarmo »

Interesting, but Apple Maps is still completely, utterly useless in Portugal (in both major cities, for any kind of trip), in Dublin (as a pedestrian) and in Madrid (as a commuter/pedestrian).

It annoys me to no end that it is incapable of coping with local street addresses and keeps suggesting Brazilian ones (and I have my phone set to US English, including Siri).

Also, no public transit info in most places I visited.

Re: Apple Maps vs. Google Maps vs. Waze

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Post by carlmr »

erichurkman wrote: post #4

This matches my experience trying to use Waze, multiple times, over multiple years. Sometimes the "creative" routes would seem to save time, other times exiting the freeway to take a surface street would have me sitting at the offramp for 10 minutes... possibly with all of the other Waze users who were routed that way. There's also a familiarity level of safety taking known routes. Sure, cutting down some residential…

I just mentally subtract 20 minutes from the time saved. If the remaining number is still positive it's usually worth it.

Re: Apple Maps vs. Google Maps vs. Waze

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Post by BrandoElFollito »

londons_explore wrote: post #117
BrandoElFollito wrote: post #116

I do not drive much (12k km per year) and this is 80% on roads I know. The remaining 20% is the road to vacation, usually with everyone in my region going to the same spots (this is in France). I am always wondering how good these apps are in such circumstances, when on a specific day everyone goes to the same place. They do not synchronize, which would help people to drive different roads from the start. Last Saturd…

Google predicts traffic in the future when deciding which route is best. That prediction will lead to users being spread across different routes.

Ah? This is interesting and a very good thing - it may not be deployed everywhere, perhaps?

I use mostly GM and the suggested road shows traffic being slow or fast "as we speak". The image, from the same place, will be vastly different at another time. And I see that in these times the road is different, avoiding the hot spots as of now.

In other words:

- at 5 in the morning it will route me through a busy town 500 km down the road because there is no traffic now.

- at 17:00, from the same starting point, it will avoid the same city, because of high traffic. This high traffic is irrelevant to me as I will hit the town in 7 hours, when there will be nobody on the roads.

Re: Apple Maps vs. Google Maps vs. Waze

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Post by chrisper »

cm2187 wrote: post #120
chipotle_coyote wrote: post #81

I used to be a huge Waze fan, and I do still use it, but both Apple Maps and Google Maps provide much better UX in a lot of ways: I really miss lane guidance, for instance. I think Waze still has the best traffic guidance, but I'm pretty sure the number of times I've clicked "yes, now that you've shown me this ad, I would like you to stop the route I'm on now and take me 17 minutes out of my way to go to the nearest…

Is it even safe to ask you to click buttons while driving?

The ads only come when you are fully stopped (e.g. traffic light).

Re: Apple Maps vs. Google Maps vs. Waze

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Post by Yizahi »

The problem with Waze is a horrible UI. In frequent short commutes (in city basically) I need good UI to see road state, see important events, see comments for chosen important events, then plan a route and pick one out of several, when driving I want to clearly see junctions, I want to clearly see lane guidance etc. - most of these Waze fails. Google is about the same, only different. Much much better interface is in Yandex navigator made by russians, but due to war with them I can't really use it and have to suffer with W/G. And Apple is unavailable outside of their garden so I don't even consider it. Sygic doesn't have big adoption for traffic coverage, so is used offline only.

Re: Apple Maps vs. Google Maps vs. Waze

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Post by barsonme »

snowwrestler wrote: post #109
derefr wrote: post #102

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Why not just put in speedbumps every few miles, then?

The reason there aren't speed bumps every few miles is the same reason it's not illegal to tell each other where the speed traps are: there is tension between public support for the goal, and public annoyance at enforcement. This is also why it's not illegal to buy a car that can go 120 mph, even though there is not a single road in the U.S. with a speed limit that high.

> This is also why it's not illegal to buy a car that can go 120 mph

That, and I can take my 120+ mph car to the track. (Also, I can think of a couple times having a car able to go 120 mph has helped me get out of the way of some accidents a slower car would've got caught up in.)

Re: Apple Maps vs. Google Maps vs. Waze

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Post by mseebach »

username223 wrote: post #92
chipotle_coyote wrote: post #81

I used to be a huge Waze fan, and I do still use it, but both Apple Maps and Google Maps provide much better UX in a lot of ways: I really miss lane guidance, for instance. I think Waze still has the best traffic guidance, but I'm pretty sure the number of times I've clicked "yes, now that you've shown me this ad, I would like you to stop the route I'm on now and take me 17 minutes out of my way to go to the nearest…

How do these things even exist? Obviously the people in the cars don't want them, and will never use them. Even the people A/B testing them should eventually figure that out.

I suppose it's the "better horse" paradox. A/B testing can only get you incremental improvements, to make the leap from a really good horse to a car, you need to make a bet and sustain it for a bit to get people comfortable enough to decide to try it out.

That's not to say that whatever Waze is doing is a good idea, but that may well be the underlying mechanism for why they're trying.

Re: Apple Maps vs. Google Maps vs. Waze

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Post by paulbeattie »

The one thing Google Maps is missing for me over the other two is speed limits. It's so handy to have an alert go off especially in larger cities where they can fluctuate frequently.

Waze sometimes feels like it's taking you off the beaten path to improve data reliability and collection. I've had it take me off a quiet street onto a country lane only to emerge onto the same quiet street half a mile further along but having spent a significant period of time taking a weird route.

Re: Apple Maps vs. Google Maps vs. Waze

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Post by hobofan »

chrisper wrote: post #125
cm2187 wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is it even safe to ask you to click buttons while driving?

The ads only come when you are fully stopped (e.g. traffic light).

Does it also check for a stopped engine?

Here in Germany the laws regarding texting and driving only regard a car as not driving if it is standing still and the engine is turned off.

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