Michael Tiemann used to say that he wasn't interested in trying to pitch to a company unless he thought his product (Red Hat Linux) was four times better than what they currently had: the costs and risks of a switch can easily negate the value of changing to a product that is only somewhat better than the incumbent. Unless Stride does something massively better than Slack, I don't see how Stride can compete.
Stride, Atlassian’s Slack competitor, opens its API to all developers
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Re: Stride, Atlassian’s Slack competitor, opens its API to all developers
#112"The modern workplace, after all, seems to have a need for an ever-increasing number of tools that provide constant interruptions."
Nice one
Re: Stride, Atlassian’s Slack competitor, opens its API to all developers
#113Michael Tiemann used to say that he wasn't interested in trying to pitch to a company unless he thought his product (Red Hat Linux) was four times better than what they currently had: the costs and risks of a switch can easily negate the value of changing to a product that is only somewhat better than the incumbent. Unless Stride does something massively better than Slack, I don't see how Stride can compete.
It’ll be bundled with other atlassian products. Less hassle to integrate with those, one less service to log into, one less monthly payment, etc. Slack is possibly better for someone who doesn’t use atlassian products.
Also, many people use skype for business, and so slack faces the exact same problem.
Re: Stride, Atlassian’s Slack competitor, opens its API to all developers
#114Earlier quoted context omitted.
Something about this comment feels very much like an ad.
Especially because you can always mute Slack or use do not disturb as well.
But can Slack help you rethink team communication, or redefine the way teams move work forward, together? I know I want a messaging tool that delivers results.
Re: Stride, Atlassian’s Slack competitor, opens its API to all developers
#115I didn't find any reference to encryption or security matters on Stride, anyone?
I want to believe that keybase will be soon mature enough to compete against Slack and other similar services...
Re: Stride, Atlassian’s Slack competitor, opens its API to all developers
#116Just don't fuck up Trello guys, for the love of god.
Trello seems to have lost it's use after it got made into a separate company. It seems to have gotten worse after it got bought out by Atlassian. No real intriguing features. Also, Atlassian used to be loved by developers, after it ipoed it just seems not loved
Gotten worse? I haven’t noticed anything worse, hasn’t seemed very different at all. I don’t have a business account though - do you have anything specific in mind?
Re: Stride, Atlassian’s Slack competitor, opens its API to all developers
#117Michael Tiemann used to say that he wasn't interested in trying to pitch to a company unless he thought his product (Red Hat Linux) was four times better than what they currently had: the costs and risks of a switch can easily negate the value of changing to a product that is only somewhat better than the incumbent. Unless Stride does something massively better than Slack, I don't see how Stride can compete.
Slack's challenge is that it's just Slack. It's an extra monthly cost, extra thing to the manage.
Atlassian can sell you the integrated package. One price, one invoice, tight integration between products.
I don't have any data on this, but I think one reason for Slack's success was that people could just start using it without going thorough the IT. I'd assume there's still a huge number of companies who haven't made an official choice on this space. Those might be tempted to go with offerings from Atlassian or Microsoft.
Slack could be interesting acquisition for Dropbox (haven't thought out if it could work financially).
Re: Stride, Atlassian’s Slack competitor, opens its API to all developers
#118I don't understand the point of all these stupid chat apps... Discord, Slack ect... If you need real time there is IRC. Otherwise, just setup a mailing list.
You're like that person who laughed about Hotmail when it came out, because why would you want someone else to host your e-mail, and why would you want to access it in a browser instead of via a full-featured client?
There's a difference between being "wrong" (which you're not), and realizing that 99,9% of people in the world aren't you.
IRC will never be used for corporate communication. IRC usage has been declining steadily since 2003[1]. It's over.
Facebook solved a problem that many people had, despite the fact that Myspace, group e-mails, real-time chat and online photo sharing already existed. That's why they today have a market cap of over 500 billion US dollars.
Slack made the concept of IRC usable for "normal people". You're not normal people (that's meant as a compliment), so your capabilities aren't really relevant when looking at why things succeed or fail on a larger scale.
[1]: http://royal.pingdom.com/2012/04/24/irc-is-dead-long-live-ir...
Re: Stride, Atlassian’s Slack competitor, opens its API to all developers
#119Just don't fuck up Trello guys, for the love of god.
Trello seems to have lost it's use after it got made into a separate company. It seems to have gotten worse after it got bought out by Atlassian. No real intriguing features. Also, Atlassian used to be loved by developers, after it ipoed it just seems not loved
This is not my experience. Trello has continued to work just fine after its acquisition by Atlassian.
Re: Stride, Atlassian’s Slack competitor, opens its API to all developers
#120I don't understand the point of all these stupid chat apps... Discord, Slack ect... If you need real time there is IRC. Otherwise, just setup a mailing list.
I use Discord heavily. I'd love to hear why you think IRC is better for voice and text chat than Discord.