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Apple Maps vs. Google Maps vs. Waze

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Re: Apple Maps vs. Google Maps vs. Waze

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Post by dawnerd »

epberry wrote: post #18

One feature I miss in navigation services is an ability to choose the “easy” route. For example, I live in the Midwest and usually I’d rather take the interstate, even if it’s 5 minutes longer, than a series of country roads. Obviously you can choose this when you know where you’re going but forget it if you’re in an unfamiliar area. A simple heuristic for this would be which route involves the fewest different roads…

This!! I prefer to take roads wheres theres protected turns if its making me take a left. I hate trying to take a left onto a highway from a small road. Really need an option to prefer bigger roads.

Re: Apple Maps vs. Google Maps vs. Waze

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Post by username223 »

chipotle_coyote wrote: post #81

I used to be a huge Waze fan, and I do still use it, but both Apple Maps and Google Maps provide much better UX in a lot of ways: I really miss lane guidance, for instance. I think Waze still has the best traffic guidance, but I'm pretty sure the number of times I've clicked "yes, now that you've shown me this ad, I would like you to stop the route I'm on now and take me 17 minutes out of my way to go to the nearest…

How do these things even exist? Obviously the people in the cars don't want them, and will never use them. Even the people A/B testing them should eventually figure that out.

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Post by pvg »

megy wrote: post #88
efrafa wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In europe you usuallly have warning before speedtrap. You can also hear about them in fm radio. The point is to slow down, not to get you a ticket..

The point is to stop people speeding in every location, so how does this achieve that?

The point of all traffic regulations and enforcement is to improve safety. Ensuring people adhere to the limits in high-risk areas does that.

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Post by capkutay »

aeontech wrote: post #67
capkutay wrote: post #36

Just personally I'll never use Apple Maps because their customer/developer support suck. I've filed numerous tickets on one intersection that's been closed for 2.5 years in Downtown San Francisco of all places. Yet Apple Maps still routes uber drivers through there forcing them to do a 10 minute roundabout. When they pick me up I again have to direct them not to follow Apple Maps. I don't know why they persistently d…

Out of curiousity, what intersection was it, and is it still unfixed?

Yes. It's the roundabout on Otis st in mission bay.

Re: Apple Maps vs. Google Maps vs. Waze

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Post by steveax »

seanp2k2 wrote: post #82
valiant-comma wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Indeed — you can choose to “reduce difficult intersections”[0] when selecting a route (tap the gear icon when the route list comes up), which might help in these situations. The article says they the feature was initially rolled out in LA, but it’s at least in the Bay Area at this point. [0] https://www.engadget.com/2016/06/19/waze-avoid-difficult-int...

I love that waze let’s you at least specify a preference. Apple maps and Google Maps are too simple in this regard IMO. Ideally, for advanced users, you could choose 0-100 how to optimize for route “stickiness” (staying on the same roads) vs aggressive optimization for time. I’m guessing that the “difficult intetsections” in LA are e.g. two-way multi-lane streets with no left turn arrow (yield on green). How LA think…

Pretty sure from some limited sampling that waze is responsible for this cluster [1]. If you zoom in you can see the right-turn only sign at the intersection. What you cannot really see is that two blocks of cars waiting all have their left-turn signals on (well, the ones that bothered to signal).

I really dislike some of the externalities created by waze.

[1]: http://pangram.org/images/tacoma.jpg

Re: Apple Maps vs. Google Maps vs. Waze

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Post by pmarreck »

Waze has always been spot-on for me with its arrival predictions in the Northeast EXCEPT when wading into rush hours. Waze really needs to improve its future traffic estimation based on historical weekday/weekend trends/data.

But the notification of speed traps, road hazards and traffic-light cameras pushes it to the fore IMHO.

Re: Apple Maps vs. Google Maps vs. Waze

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Post by sgc »

spike021 wrote: post #6

Google Maps has been steering me wrong quite often the past 6 months, including instances where it has me pass the landmark or business that I am driving to, turn into a private residential neighborhood, go two to three blocks in, and say "you've arrived at your destination". Tempted to try Apple Maps again now that it's improved since launch.

Could it in any way be related to recent gps disruption in the Western US? I am certain it has happened to me a couple times where the gps could not understand I was already on the interstate, and then the issue disappeared with no intervention the next day.

Re: Apple Maps vs. Google Maps vs. Waze

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Post by sgc »

Bedon292 wrote: post #78
sillypuddy wrote: post #71

No data, but my suspicion is that Waze expects you to speed more. If Waze drivers on average are more aggresive, they're predictions might be accurately tuned for them.

That actually seems like quite a reasonable assumption. Knowing the normal speeds on the roads in my area, vs the speed limits, the difference in time between Google and Waze predictions seem to support that.

I think google maps learns from your driving habits and predicts accordingly. Just a hunch based on my personal experience.
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