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Stride, Atlassian’s Slack competitor, opens its API to all developers

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Re: Stride, Atlassian’s Slack competitor, opens its API to all developers

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If you want both, there is Slack ;) Why separate your communication into two tools instead of one?

Because one is a free and open standard where you actually own your data.

I think Riot/Matrix is a happy compromise. I've been hosting a couple of servers (one for fun, one for work) for about half a year now, and it's working well.

Re: Stride, Atlassian’s Slack competitor, opens its API to all developers

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It seems it stagnated. There wasn’t a real competitor to it until Slack turned up and developed a fantastic integration ecosystem (I don’t think there would be such a focus on conversational UI were it not for Slack, whether or not they intended that). By that time it was already too late, HipChat is old school, Slack is the new hotness. Anecdotally, anyone working in a startup with an opinion on design will know how…

Yeah, no kidding. My last company was up in arms to replace HipChat with Slack even though they were 99% identical. There hasn't been a significant innovation in chat technology in like 30 years yet the business sector is more frothy than ever.

Having extensively used both, Slack really is much better. Hipchat has a ton of reliability/usability issues and it’s clear _consumer-like_ product design is not Atlassian’s forte.

Re: Stride, Atlassian’s Slack competitor, opens its API to all developers

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biggest gripe with Atlassian is all their products are slow as hell. Hipchat was sluggish and buggy but at least they were steadily improving. Now everyone has to start over on a new platform (?) Confluence, how freakin long does it take to return a static info page, Seconds? As if visiting the HR subdomain wasn't painful enough already. Heaven forbid you click on something makes a POST request in JIRA, RIP developer.

Re: Stride, Atlassian’s Slack competitor, opens its API to all developers

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It seems it stagnated. There wasn’t a real competitor to it until Slack turned up and developed a fantastic integration ecosystem (I don’t think there would be such a focus on conversational UI were it not for Slack, whether or not they intended that). By that time it was already too late, HipChat is old school, Slack is the new hotness. Anecdotally, anyone working in a startup with an opinion on design will know how…

To be fair, Hipchat is missing a lot of features that Slack has.

Like what? 99% of usage is just chat rooms. I could hook in build notifications and post gifs. HipChat had voice and video years before Slack.

Re: Stride, Atlassian’s Slack competitor, opens its API to all developers

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biggest gripe with Atlassian is all their products are slow as hell. Hipchat was sluggish and buggy but at least they were steadily improving. Now everyone has to start over on a new platform (?) Confluence, how freakin long does it take to return a static info page, Seconds? As if visiting the HR subdomain wasn't painful enough already. Heaven forbid you click on something makes a POST request in JIRA, RIP developer…

Agreed. If anyone from Atlassian is reading this, the changes to Jira and Confluence make me think something is wrong there. I have been a faithful Jira user for over a decade and it has gotten markedly worse as a product in the past year. Maybe it's more profitable with app/marketplace, but the experience with multiple integrated apps is dog slow. Navigability has gotten worse. HipChat had uptime issues to the point my company moved to Slack. I am worried for you guys.

Re: Stride, Atlassian’s Slack competitor, opens its API to all developers

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Any sources on that? I'm pretty sure it's a heavy re-architecting at the very least, but if it's the same team and lead, have they gone entirely from scratch or repurposed some of Hipchat's code? (just questioning) Not curious enough to do the kind of blackbox exploration folks at https://webrtchacks.com or other sites do :)

I believe I am a pretty good source. :) Stride is a brand new product (not a rebrand of Hipchat), we did not repurpose Hipchat's code. It's built from ground up on Atlassian platform - new protocol, clients, platform, etc. One exception is the video bridge technology which remains powered by the Jitsi.org open source product (which we acquired in 2015). I do look after both products (Hipchat Cloud and Stride) for Atl…

hi steve

Re: Stride, Atlassian’s Slack competitor, opens its API to all developers

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The primary function of Atlassian software is to say "Access denied." You tell Greg he needs to give you permission to do whatever. Greg says he'll do that after he gets your self-assessment. He later writes on your self-assessment receipt that you're a whiner lacking self-motivation. I've used Confluence for two years. It's slow and the editor is buggy. The primary function is to prevent me from making a document pu…

Wait, people actually read jira emails? I just filter it to my 'ham' folder.

80% of my coworkers do not read them. I read the ~5% of them that contain more than "Status: -Open- Assigned." Of my remaining coworkers, there are a dozen that reply from their mail client, which just makes everything worse.

Re: Stride, Atlassian’s Slack competitor, opens its API to all developers

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Joke's on them, we're still using Stash at my employer!

I rather like Stash. It has nice integration with Jira, and works fine.

Stash works fine in precisely the same sense that lynx is a perfectly capable web browser. It's not wrong, but you have to admit that it's missing a number of 'modern' features that many users have grown accustomed to.

The more recent offering (Bitbucket Server) falls behind the curve as well, even when compared to their own Bitbucket Cloud service.

Re: Stride, Atlassian’s Slack competitor, opens its API to all developers

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Sad thing is there isn’t even baseline feature parity. Not sure what’s going to happen when they give my org a date to move by. Without some of the more enterprisey features, we can’t move to Stride. Oh and the FU on all of our existing integration use is cute. They should have released it as a UI improvement for HipChat, not a whole new ecosystem.

> Oh and the FU on all of our existing integration use is cute.

I certainly didn't appreciate it. As someone who invests significant portions of time building integrations between various systems in our development team, I quickly hit the brakes the second I heard the Stride announcement.

Since our organization is being forced to move from HipChat, we're reviewing alternatives rather than blindly continuing onward toward Stride.

I strongly doubt that this will have any impact on Atlassian's bottom-line, however.

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