No data, but my suspicion is that Waze expects you to speed more. If Waze drivers on average are more aggresive, they're predictions might be accurately tuned for them.
Apple Maps vs. Google Maps vs. Waze
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#72What I like about Waze: All the data other than the route itself, he location of speed traps most importantly. What I like about Apple Maps: The actual on-screen navigation experience. I find it’s the clearest about which lane I need to be in. Waze is terrible about weirdly-shaped intersections and ramps, both in the maps themselves and the instructions about where I need to be to turn/exit. If you think all the alle…
> he location of speed traps most importantly. How in any was is that legal or ethical to have that data available.
Because, as was hashed out in court on exactly that question: the purpose of speed enforcement is to reduce speeding, not generate ticket revenue. If making people aware that they’re going to get caught speeding -makes them slow down- then the police presence is reducing the crime.
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#73One feature I miss in navigation services is an ability to choose the “easy” route. For example, I live in the Midwest and usually I’d rather take the interstate, even if it’s 5 minutes longer, than a series of country roads. Obviously you can choose this when you know where you’re going but forget it if you’re in an unfamiliar area. A simple heuristic for this would be which route involves the fewest different roads…
I want the opposite of this; sometimes when I’m on a road trip, I want to drive through random one- or two-lane roads that go through super cool areas. One time when I was driving cross-country (US) google routed me for about 10 miles through a 1.5-lane road through a forest instead of the highway. It was magical. Beautiful, winding roads, tons of animals, etc. It’s super hard to find roads like that normally.
If you are committed enough, you can convince OSMAnd to avoid larger highways. It comes with an option to avoid freeways, which is just a parameter in the routing specification:
https://github.com/osmandapp/OsmAnd-resources/blob/master/ro...
So then you can add similar parameters for other major highway types (or one that groups them).
Like I say, committed. I guess BRouter could do similar.
Re: Apple Maps vs. Google Maps vs. Waze
#74What I like about Waze: All the data other than the route itself, he location of speed traps most importantly. What I like about Apple Maps: The actual on-screen navigation experience. I find it’s the clearest about which lane I need to be in. Waze is terrible about weirdly-shaped intersections and ramps, both in the maps themselves and the instructions about where I need to be to turn/exit. If you think all the alle…
> he location of speed traps most importantly. How in any was is that legal or ethical to have that data available.
In europe you usuallly have warning before speedtrap. You can also hear about them in fm radio.
The point is to slow down, not to get you a ticket..
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#75Waze always has the latest accident and traffic reports. There are three main routes to my job. I always open it up in the morning and check travel times for each one (just press Routes button instead of Go). I have my preferred route, which is always fastest and shortest, but if Waze ever suggests one of the other two, I know I should listen. When I look into it, it’s usually some major accident or something affecti…
Google Maps is the same for me. Some of the accidents in Google Maps are labeled "reported by Waze" or something like that. It seems like I get the best of both worlds:
crowdsourced traffic data from Waze within the clean interface of Google Maps.
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#76Earlier quoted context omitted.
> he location of speed traps most importantly. How in any was is that legal or ethical to have that data available.
What legal or ethical laws does it violate to have that data available?
You can buy a radar detector on amazon or $50, I'd say probably not many otherwise those would be much more regulated.
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#77I'd like to see a review of how the various navigation apps do in situations with unusually heavy, unusually widespread traffic, such as when people were trying to go home after the 2017 total eclipse in the US. I was using Waze when leaving Madras, Oregon, after the eclipse heading to the Puget Sound area of Washington. It suggested a route that would bypass a couple miles of slow traffic, but the road it sent me do…
We had several cars decamping from middle-of-nowhere Kentucky to Champaign, IL. I plotted the route back by looking at the paper map in the glove compartment for Ohio River crossings, and then telling the GPS to take me on that bridge. Everyone else took I-24 back until they got cell coverage telling them that maybe IL-145 and US-45 (already saturated with Illinois eclipse traffic) would be faster than I-57 (even more saturated). I managed to get back at least an hour faster than the rest, although I still wonder if it wouldn't have been faster to detour as far east as Evansville, or at least the minor county road further east (as most of the traffic I hit was ~1mi long backups every stop sign).
Re: Apple Maps vs. Google Maps vs. Waze
#78No data, but my suspicion is that Waze expects you to speed more. If Waze drivers on average are more aggresive, they're predictions might be accurately tuned for them.
That actually seems like quite a reasonable assumption. Knowing the normal speeds on the roads in my area, vs the speed limits, the difference in time between Google and Waze predictions seem to support that.
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#79Waze pointing out police and road hazards has saved my bacon a lot. Sometimes it routes me wrong, but sometimes I distrusted it's recommendation to go through a side street, only to slam into a huge traffic jam that it was routing me around. Nowadays, I use Waze but look at the route, and if it is overcomplicated, I look to see if it did it for obvious reasons (traffic jams). Apple Maps is pretty awful for me, it doe…
The current version of Apple Maps has lane guidance which works pretty well in the areas I've used it (around a fair amount of northern California, not just the SF Bay area, as well as the Tampa Bay area in Florida).
Google certainly has a better POI database, although for the example you gave ("its first suggestions are in another state hundreds of miles away") I'm not sure whether the issue is Apple's database as much as its flaky searching of its own database. I tend to explicitly give it cities when I'm searching for businesses. I suspect if I were in another country, though, I'd quickly give up and just use Google.
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#80Earlier quoted context omitted.
One can take the HOV lane with an electric car.
You can configure waze for hov routes
I love that waze is configurable in this and other ways. That + the cop detector are what drive me to use it. Sadly, as an iOS user with CarPlay, it’s apple maps for nav with waze running in the background to alert me of hazards. Not elegant but it works.
If any Apple employees are reading this: I’m definitely not the only one who hates Apple maps, and forcing me to use it makes me hate it even more. Stop that, PLEASE. Car nav systems are awful enough as it is. Carplay isn’t great, but it’s better than any other car system I’ve used. The text messaging stuff is particularly annoying, as are “storage almost full” notifications WHILE I AM DRIVING. You can’t display a text message, but will terribly offer to read it to me then activate voice control, and yet storage space getting low is important enough to pop an alert that I have to interact with to make it stop? Please reconsider these priorities. Also, make Spotify fix their garbage carplay app.