Launch HN: Nutrigene (YC W18) – Tailor-made liquid supplements using health data • Hacker News Board

Re: Launch HN: Nutrigene (YC W18) – Tailor-made liquid supplements using health data

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Post by hestajex » Tue, Feb 20, 2018, 9:09 PM UTC

dictum wrote: post #52

treis wrote: post #38

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(1) Your 10x claim is obvious bullshit. Where is your research showing a measurable health improvement that is 10x greater? (2) Where is your peer reviewed research demonstrating that your system leads to measurable health improvements? Your company, like virtually every supplement company, is a scam that plays on the fears and ignorance of its customers. You have an obvious conflict of interest in that you both reco…

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I thought name calling wasn't allowed, where's the warning for this user?

Re: Launch HN: Nutrigene (YC W18) – Tailor-made liquid supplements using health data

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Post by jdpedrie » Tue, Feb 20, 2018, 9:11 PM UTC

See price info without filling out the forms: http://www.mynutrigene.com/products

I kind of like this idea, but it seems so half-baked. Why not wait a while to get the product working before posting here?

Re: Launch HN: Nutrigene (YC W18) – Tailor-made liquid supplements using health data

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Post by treis » Tue, Feb 20, 2018, 9:11 PM UTC

vancanwin wrote: post #65

treis wrote: post #58

Wow, I played around with this more. An active 6' 195 lb man gets the exact same recommendation as 5' 50,000 lb (Yes, fifty thousand pound) woman. You're not actually doing any analysis or customization are you?

Not sure where you got that feature since that feature is not yet available online. We can generate a list of dosages that customized base on your body composition.

I click on the big "START NOW" button under the text that says "Optimized formulations tailored to your body composition that’s 10X more effective." That process ends up with "recommended" packages I can purchase.

Re: Launch HN: Nutrigene (YC W18) – Tailor-made liquid supplements using health data

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Post by hestajex » Tue, Feb 20, 2018, 9:12 PM UTC

grzm wrote: post #47

whitepoplar wrote: post #45

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This is verbalistic BS.

Please don't be nasty. If you disagree with OP's idea, that's great. Just don't call OP or the idea BS. Let the market decide--it's ultimately smarter than you (or me).

You mean the same market the decided Justin Bieber is a good musician? The same market that allowed Hillary and Trump to pass the primaries?

Re: Launch HN: Nutrigene (YC W18) – Tailor-made liquid supplements using health data

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Post by minfitzgerald » Tue, Feb 20, 2018, 9:18 PM UTC

hestajex wrote: post #61

vancanwin wrote: post #46

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Thanks for your feedback. (1) Our 10x claim is on efficacy of absorption as for liquids typically easier to absorb than tablets or soft gels. I will submit that article soon. Apologize for not being clear. (2) As for measurable health improvements we are collecting those data through our customers and research done with our advisors at the moment. We have some preliminary results but are currently under review. Happy…

Your website claims that the "elixirs" are made in San-Francisco but you fail to mention the origin of the vitamins. Anyone can go on Alibaba and buy this stuff in bulk ship it to California and claim that it was, made "unique to you in our SF lab". Everything about this product sets off red flags; no mention of sourcing, zero certificates of analysis and no peer reviewed research. The "science" section only covers '…

Thanks for your feedback. We do the formulations in SF, and we have COAs for our distributors. Typically supplement companies don't tell you who their distributors actually are. Our filter for distributors and manufacturers are purity levels - and you're right, this information is currently not on our site. We've been working hard on meeting customer needs directly as priority first, but we've realized how much communication is lacking. Thanks for bringing attention to what information you'd like to see on our site.

Re: Launch HN: Nutrigene (YC W18) – Tailor-made liquid supplements using health data

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Post by whitepoplar » Tue, Feb 20, 2018, 9:22 PM UTC

hestajex wrote: post #74

grzm wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please don't be nasty. If you disagree with OP's idea, that's great. Just don't call OP or the idea BS. Let the market decide--it's ultimately smarter than you (or me).

You mean the same market the decided Justin Bieber is a good musician? The same market that allowed Hillary and Trump to pass the primaries?

grzm is reposting a comment, taken out of context, from my comment history. But I'll respond anyway: the market didn't necessarily decide that Bieber is a good musician, only that he provides "value," whatever that may be--behavior, personality, music, sex appeal, etc. As for for Hillary and Trump, yep, same market ;).

Re: Launch HN: Nutrigene (YC W18) – Tailor-made liquid supplements using health data

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Post by hestajex » Tue, Feb 20, 2018, 9:22 PM UTC

crsv wrote: post #69

treis wrote: post #64

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Nope, it posts the answers to the survey to: https://vp9eae2gvh.execute-api.us-west-1.amazonaws.com/test/... which responds: "Hello from Lambda" At which point it shows me my "recommended" packages which are supposedly "tailored to my body". Picking one of those sends me to a payment screen. This isn't shady or false advertising. This is an out and out scam.

This is pretty mindblowing for a YC company, pretty damaging to their brand as well being associated with this type of snake-oil product.

Muh female co-founders.

Re: Launch HN: Nutrigene (YC W18) – Tailor-made liquid supplements using health data

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Post by treis » Tue, Feb 20, 2018, 9:24 PM UTC

grzm wrote: post #47

whitepoplar wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is verbalistic BS.

Please don't be nasty. If you disagree with OP's idea, that's great. Just don't call OP or the idea BS. Let the market decide--it's ultimately smarter than you (or me).

That's not really true. Snake oil salesman was an actual profession until government regulation.

Either way, calling OP and the idea BS is part of how the market decides.

Re: Launch HN: Nutrigene (YC W18) – Tailor-made liquid supplements using health data

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Post by minfitzgerald » Tue, Feb 20, 2018, 9:27 PM UTC

treis wrote: post #73

vancanwin wrote: post #65

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Not sure where you got that feature since that feature is not yet available online. We can generate a list of dosages that customized base on your body composition.

I click on the big "START NOW" button under the text that says "Optimized formulations tailored to your body composition that’s 10X more effective." That process ends up with "recommended" packages I can purchase.

Thanks! When customers receive their package, they are informed of their dosages across the supplements. We've been getting requests to include an online feature of your supplement dosages being viewed - and are trying to get it out directly on our site ASAP.

Re: Launch HN: Nutrigene (YC W18) – Tailor-made liquid supplements using health data

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Post by mmmmchipotle » Tue, Feb 20, 2018, 9:32 PM UTC

same recommendations whether I put in my actual weight or 350 lbs.

combine the outright lie of customization with the baseless claims (10X?) and I have no choice but to be extremely disappointed in the ethical choices of you and (sadly) ycombinator for associating themselves with you.

The supplement industry is mostly scams, silicon valley is supposed to do things "differently". Obviously that is not the case here. Same shit business model making money off of ignorant people, different wrapper.