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Launch HN: Nutrigene (YC W18) – Tailor-made liquid supplements using health data

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Re: Launch HN: Nutrigene (YC W18) – Tailor-made liquid supplements using health data

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I truly understand the skepticism especially when starting this company. That's why we are putting standards and QA processes to make sure our vitamins are pure and not filled with 99% fillers as most vitamins do. We are targeting people who have taken a step towards reducing their refine sugar, carbs, and proper exercise. Our customers typically work out and eat healthy, but are finding that supplementation is worki…

> not filled with 99% fillers Personally, my doubts about the supplement industry aren't about the purity of the vitamin supplements, but the effectiveness of supplements in general.

I, too, have similar concerns. For people who are taking supplements now have mostly qualitative data to show efficacy of supplements in general. Some people go beyond taking the steps of blood panels, for example.

What we are doing is finding ways to quantify how supplements are working for people. And we strive for is finding those metrics to better understand how people can improve in their health.

Re: Launch HN: Nutrigene (YC W18) – Tailor-made liquid supplements using health data

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I've worked with people who have started companies in this space and raised a lot of money, and also with lawyers who have represented some of the most prominent companies in this space.

I'd be cautious around even "anecdotal" statements around decreasing base heart rate and aortic stiffness. FDA takes these kinds of claims very seriously, and it costs a LOT of money to get the kind of data FDA requires to back these claims up. Essentially every company that has tried marketing "non drugs" to improve clinical outcomes without complying with regulations and generating rigorous data has been shut down, either temporarily or permanently

Re: Launch HN: Nutrigene (YC W18) – Tailor-made liquid supplements using health data

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post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I truly understand the skepticism especially when starting this company. That's why we are putting standards and QA processes to make sure our vitamins are pure and not filled with 99% fillers as most vitamins do. We are targeting people who have taken a step towards reducing their refine sugar, carbs, and proper exercise. Our customers typically work out and eat healthy, but are finding that supplementation is worki…

Interesting you suggest in this post that reducing carbs is a step towards a healthier diet. A whole food plant based diet is mostly carbs and is generally regarded as the healthiest diet available. The field of nutritional science is as valid as any and saying it ia becoming more validated science suggests to me you havent been exposed to the thousands of high quality studies being published every year. This is a hu…

I appreciate your skepticism as there should be more of it when addressing these type of health topics. I wish there was more of this type of healthy discussions in the place of healthcare.

But back to the topic, my mistake for generalizing the statements above. For some who need to reduce or should I say "monitor" their carb intake, such as myself, I had to drastically reduce my carb intake due to diabetes. And sugars are particularly a huge culprit for this problem, but I have to significantly reduce consuming potatoes, rice, pasta, even healthy fruits. So for many in these categories reducing their carbs is necessary.

The space of nutritional science does contain lots of research but some are very limiting and over simplified. An example, I've seen studies of arginine consumption and how that effects the aortic heart stiffness. Some of the studies only lasted for 120 minutes and concluded that there weren't any effects. But many many longitudinal clinical trials have shown improvement in heart health through decrease in heart stiffness. For us, we still have to comb through all the papers of published studies and make sure the conclusions made are just an oversimplification of lack of rigor in those studies.

But yes, we want to make the data and information more transparent as well. Thank you for recommending that site. We've definitely checked it out but will check it out again.

Re: Launch HN: Nutrigene (YC W18) – Tailor-made liquid supplements using health data

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I've worked with people who have started companies in this space and raised a lot of money, and also with lawyers who have represented some of the most prominent companies in this space. I'd be cautious around even "anecdotal" statements around decreasing base heart rate and aortic stiffness. FDA takes these kinds of claims very seriously, and it costs a LOT of money to get the kind of data FDA requires to back these…

Greatly appreciate the caution. Yes, we are working doctors who are making these claims with supplements and their device. However, I will tread carefully on my anecdotal statements as well.

Re: Launch HN: Nutrigene (YC W18) – Tailor-made liquid supplements using health data

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Here's an obvious question that you seem to have utterly utterly failed to answer: WHAT SPECIFICALLY ARE YOU ACTUALLY OFFERING TO SEND ME.

A month subscription of liquid supplements that is adjusted base on your body composition. Our supplements are adjusted base on your weight, height, age, and gender. And so far, no two orders are the same. It will eventually once we get more orders.

Re: Launch HN: Nutrigene (YC W18) – Tailor-made liquid supplements using health data

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Here's an obvious question that you seem to have utterly utterly failed to answer: WHAT SPECIFICALLY ARE YOU ACTUALLY OFFERING TO SEND ME.

What information is missing from this description, which is front and center on the landing page? "Pure liquid vitamins based on research. Optimized formulations tailored to your body composition that’s 10X more effective." This text appears next to a photos of branded vials containing, one assumes, liquid vitamins.

Re: Launch HN: Nutrigene (YC W18) – Tailor-made liquid supplements using health data

#28

if off the shelf vitamines degrade, liquid dont? Or do they but the different rate -

All vitamins degrade within weeeks / months and that's why we are delivering just in time.

We make the supplements the week we plan to ship it. And you should consume our monthly vitamins with the month.

Most of the vitamins right after production (including capping) would degrade on average 50% 6 months after. That's why we are taking the subscription model approach.

Re: Launch HN: Nutrigene (YC W18) – Tailor-made liquid supplements using health data

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The 'how it works' section of your landing page is broken on iOS safari. This looks like a good product and one that I will consider trying when I have more disposable income. I would be more likely to use it if it included blood tests for vitamin deficiencies before coming up with a custom formulation. Is there a reason you aren't doing that?

We are launching that feature through our genetics option in our metabolic assessment as of recent. What we are having more people do is get a blood panel done before and after our product. Please contact us at support@mynutrigene.com to discuss more about it as a service.

We don't provide the test directly, but we recommend blood panels taken through life extensions.

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