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Peace and quiet is all about the noise in your head

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Re: Peace and quiet is all about the noise in your head

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Post by reallymental »

dqpb wrote: post #87
throwawyy92892 wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Could you explain a bit more about your negative thought problems and how therapy helped? I'm in a similar situation and am looking at options to help myself. Thanks.

Woebot is a project out of Stanford which teaches you how to recognize and correct unhealthy thinking. It is also an interesting example of a chatbot based service. https://woebot.io/

I'm quite disturbed by efforts like this. Perhaps because I cannot fathom how a chatbot can help replace human compassion and emotion from just simple human characteristics like facial expressions.

A major part of the solution will be to get together and try to understand each other. Not to delegate this to a bot that'll spit out some random LSTM generated "words".

Our bots can help solve some problems in our communication, and can help us communicate when we cannot physically do so. Hawking will testify to this perhaps.

They should not communicate instead of us being able to do so.

Re: Peace and quiet is all about the noise in your head

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Post by et-al »

colmvp wrote: post #91
throwawyy92892 wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Could you explain a bit more about your negative thought problems and how therapy helped? I'm in a similar situation and am looking at options to help myself. Thanks.

Overcoming it is a long process, and I'd be lying if I said if I'm over it. There are still some aspects that I am very sensitive to which can throw me overboard for several days, so I don't want to pretend as if I'm fully different. But I'll try my best to talk through some of the things that helped. For me, negative thoughts are triggered by certain situations, namely inter-personal relationships and the fear of re…

Thanks for sharing something so intimate.

With regards to the Learning How to Learn, is it this course on Coursera? https://www.coursera.org/learn/learning-how-to-learn

Re: Peace and quiet is all about the noise in your head

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Post by jacobush »

spike021 wrote: post #66
cyphar wrote: post #15

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One thing I didn't understand when I visited the US is that people applaud in American cinemas. I don't understand why that's seen as appropriate.

Not everyone in the US does this. I don't usually. It's odd, honestly, because it seems intended to honor the people who produced the film.. but they aren't there to hear or appreciate it. So.. Not sure? If the idea is just theatergoers feeling togetherness at experiencing the film with each other, then maybe it makes sense? Yet, it's quite different.

God save our gracious Queen... yet she's not there to hear it, most of the time. It's just in us.

Re: Peace and quiet is all about the noise in your head

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Post by nothrabannosir »

reallymental wrote: post #101
dqpb wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Woebot is a project out of Stanford which teaches you how to recognize and correct unhealthy thinking. It is also an interesting example of a chatbot based service. https://woebot.io/

I'm quite disturbed by efforts like this. Perhaps because I cannot fathom how a chatbot can help replace human compassion and emotion from just simple human characteristics like facial expressions. A major part of the solution will be to get together and try to understand each other. Not to delegate this to a bot that'll spit out some random LSTM generated "words". Our bots can help solve some problems in our communi…

To plagiarise myself from another, similar HN thread (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14504306):

That's not self-evidently a bad thing.

For example, here is an article about Ellie, a South-Carolina University virtual therapist used in the treatment of PTSD. It notes some explicit advantages which at least complement humans:

“One advantage of using Ellie to gather behaviour evidences is that people seem to open up quite easily to Ellie, given that she is a computer and is not designed to judge the person”, Morency explains to news.com.au

...

Morency stresses she is not a substitute for a human therapist. Rather, she is used in tandem with a doctor as a data-gatherer, able to break down walls which may exist due to a patient’s unwillingness to disclose sensitive information to a human.

As Morency explains, “The behavioural indicators that Ellie identifies will be summarised to the doctor, who will integrate it as part of the treatment or therapy. Our vision is that Ellie will be a decision support tool that will help human doctors and clinicians during treatment and therapy.”

- http://www.news.com.au/technology/innovation/meet-ellie-the-...

Re: Peace and quiet is all about the noise in your head

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Post by swah »

fiatjaf wrote: post #49
sandov wrote: post #17

I was in Salvador, Brazil this summer and was disgusted by how loud everything was, people on the streets carrying speakers playing music, street sellers screaming, cars honking, I prefer the relative quietness of my southern Chile.

Why did you go to Salvador?

This is the real question.

Re: Peace and quiet is all about the noise in your head

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Post by white-flame »

brandonmenc wrote: post #56
jimmies wrote: post #11

American culture of making noise and hyping is tiring and annoying at times. Sports events are the most prominent example. Going to popular sports matches in the US: football, ice hockey, basketball, etc. and you'll be bombarded with ads, noise, hype from the loudspeakers and flashing lights from the huge screens -- every single second you're there. When you watch the Super Bowl, you watch more ads than you watch the…

Soccer is the most boring sport to watch unless you're hammered or rioting. It would be nice if they had some screens up to distract the fans.

At least soccer keeps in the gameplay (as well as basketball, hockey, etc). Baseball and football are mostly spent waiting for very brief moments of gameplay to happen.

Re: Peace and quiet is all about the noise in your head

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Post by bornonline1 »

fefb wrote: post #88
sandov wrote: post #17

I was in Salvador, Brazil this summer and was disgusted by how loud everything was, people on the streets carrying speakers playing music, street sellers screaming, cars honking, I prefer the relative quietness of my southern Chile.

Salvador is the capital of the Bahia a state of Brazil. The city has almost 3 millions of people, and it is know for its famous Carnaval parties in the summer. What were you hoping for? A silence place?

The comment did not imply the expectation for the city to be quiet. But once arrived, they discovered the city to be loud. It seems like you misunderstood the point.

Re: Peace and quiet is all about the noise in your head

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Post by colmvp »

et-al wrote: post #102
colmvp wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Overcoming it is a long process, and I'd be lying if I said if I'm over it. There are still some aspects that I am very sensitive to which can throw me overboard for several days, so I don't want to pretend as if I'm fully different. But I'll try my best to talk through some of the things that helped. For me, negative thoughts are triggered by certain situations, namely inter-personal relationships and the fear of re…

Thanks for sharing something so intimate. With regards to the Learning How to Learn, is it this course on Coursera? https://www.coursera.org/learn/learning-how-to-learn

Yes! That course really gave me a stronger understanding of how to learn, and gave me a lot more confidence that our minds are more malleable than we might believe.
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